Facebook post by the president of my college fraternity his senior year, after which he married his college sweetheart, went to medical school, and became a physician.
Bill
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT?? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THE PHONE COMPANY TO DISCONTINUE YOUR SERVICE IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE WHAT YOU SAID??????
Peter
Put the irresponsible lying nutcase in Jail.
Jay
Peter Finlay unfortunately he is being inaugurated the 20th.
Peter
Do not ignore the Truth. What would you say if a family member behaved like Trump?
Joel
The First Amendment just prohibits Congress from passing laws infringing on freedom of speech.
Sloan Bashinsky
Joel, Such laws apply to governments, not businesses.
Billy
We are living in dangerous times when the news media including Twitter et al are in lock step with the liberals that are now in charge.
Peter
Billy, or when Republicans storm the Capitol
Sloan Bashinsky
I do wish, just once, the right side would take the many beams out of its own eye, and the left side would take the many beams out of its own eye. Despite the right side's many attempts to lay the Capitol riot on the left side, the right side did that atrocity, and to any right siders, I asked you this: With God as your witness and judge, do you bet your life and your soul the left side rigged the election and invaded the national Capitol?
Tom
I read that the first amendment applies only to actions of the government... not to private companies.
Patricia
Try yelling fire in a crowded theater when no fire exists!
Mary
I assume, Bill, you are referring to the banning of Trump on twitter and on Facebook. That is obviously very frustrating to many of his followers who believe it is a violation of free speech ie 1st amendment. However, it is not, because that violation only applies when the government prevents the free speech. In this case, it is private companies who are doing this, presumably for business purposes. So, no first amendment violation here.
Sloan Bashinsky
Mary, "We reserve the right to refuse to serve to anyone," remains the law in America, unless U.S. Civil Rights Laws are violated. Looks to me Big Brother has serious competition in America.
Kay
So, Bill, you’re okay with posting lies after lies that cause the death of people???
Bill
THOUGHT POLICING IS A DANGEROUS STEP
I WOULD DEFEND YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT EVER YOU WISH WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.
Sloan Bashinsky
I felt picked on when Facebook put me in its jail twice for violating its "community standards", but I did not call for a coup. Remember the creed, Bill, "Dieu et les dames?" How'd you have liked to have Donald Trump as your Number 1 in our college fraternity?
Jerry
Sloan, fortunately we had Bill who is mixed up on this particular issue, but was a good #1.
Sloan Bashinsky
Bill indeed was a good Number 1. What a mess America has become, its foreign enemies must be delighted, its allies shaking their heads.
Melinda
This question is certainly not the road to unity. I am sorry I read this post and disappointed that some oppose stopping words that are lies and meant to instigate resurrection against our democracy. Freedom of expressing your opinion is not the same as lies meant to flame the fumes of action to destroy our government.
Bill
I feel like social media is like a discussion at the fraternity house or in the dorm at college. Everyone should be allowed to voice their opinion Free exchange of ideas and positions. That way everyone might hear a different view and become informed
Sloan Bashinsky
I agree, Bill. But not to allow what a Republican friend, Sigma Chi at Vandy, calls The Orange Turd (and his robot hordes) to use social media to ferment blatant lies meant to trigger a violent coup attempt. Would not shed a tear if they all catch a COVID strain genetically engineered to target fanatics and they star in M*A*S*H reruns.
Mary
You honestly feel like Trump's tweets are like a conversation in a fraternity? His position of power should give him also a sense of responsibility about being honest and not fomenting violence.
Bill
I did not say that . What I meant was that in an open discussion opinions can be discussed and rebutted. A whole sale rebuttal attack would be appropriate I feel you are saying that if you disagree you should silence him rather than rebut.
Sloan Bashinsky
Bill, if you are defending Trump's recent behavior and that leading to him being silenced by Facebook, Twitter, Google, Amazon, etc., I wonder if you have been closely following recent events? I wonder if you watched the first Biden-Trump debate, when Trump spoke whenever he wished, interrupted Biden unceasing, would not shut up when the Republican moderator asked him to follow the debate rules he had agreed to, in writing, before the debate. This man and his mouth have damaged America beyond repair; he did it on purpose; he started doing it before being elected in 2016, when I wrote often on my blog that Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were flip sides of the same awful coin and both should be locked up, in adjoining cells.
Mary
No, Bill, I think it is more that the President should be held to a higher standard, mainly honesty.
Kay
The 1919 Supreme Court decision limits first amendment rights and prohibits dangerous and false speech. Trump’s speech incited a riot because he falsely claimed he had won the election. That resulted in 5 deaths.
Bill
I certainly not a trump fan but I feel that the principle of silencing someone is not in the best interest of understanding of the issues
Sloan Bashinsky
Bill, he ran his mouth for four years on other people's platforms. They, finally decided he was a threat to America and yanked their platforms, which they had every right to do, since it was their platform, they were private businesses. What I don't get is they waited so long. Were they blind, deaf and dumb? Did they not see just how toxic he was to America? How much damage they were letting him do on their platforms. Hell, Bill. He wasn't in a fraternity house or locker room, he was in the White House.
Bill
I'm talking principle not specifics. I’m not defending Trump, I’m speaking against social media being self proclaimed thought police and enforcing their ideas with expulsion.
Sloan Bashinsky
Well, Bill, what if during a fraternity meeting, I had started ranting all black people should be picking cotton again, and you couldn't get me to shut up. You would not have had the sergeant at arms escort me out of the frat house? You would not have convened a later fraternity meeting for the sole purpose of kicking me out of the Kappa Alpha Order?
Bill
Good analogy. Even worse would be my making the same remarks, what would the responsible members do- Have me impeached. But in the process my right to defend myself openly would be heard. And then rejected. I’m advocating the right to at least try to defend myself . If defense is inadequate or wrong I’m out the door but I have had the opportunity to speak my side
Sloan Bashinsky
Sorry, Bill, some speech is per se EVIL, speaks for itself, is its own judge and jury. I just now saw on TV news that Trump banned the word "Nixon" in the White House. And he complains his free speech was curtailed. What a fucking snowflake. Someone should send him this, click on it to see it real good.
sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com
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