This was posted on Facebook by a retired nurse, who is a Democrat:
"Pfizer is laying the logistical groundwork for the "biggest ever" vaccination campaign, with hundreds of thousands of doses already in warehouses in the U.S. and Europe. (Wall Street Journal.)"
So, if there are hundreds of thousands of doses in warehouses now, we'll never know if we're getting a dose that has gone through all the trials or a dose that hasn't and has been in these warehouses. I don't know about this. I don't know how these doses could have gone through all the trials in less than a year's time. I don't like this or feel safe about it, at all.
Comments:
Thomas
I trust the Canadian government more than my own. I’m going to wait and see what Trudeau does and be guided accordingly. I’m going to get a vaccine, but I’m not going to rush.
Peggy
I'm afraid to get it when it comes out here if they've stockpiled already because that's coming from Trump's orders to get it done now. They can't have had all the trials it needs, Tom. Will be interesting to see what Trudeau and his government does about it.
Carol Lyn
They claimed that they paid a few companies ahead to make millions of doses of possible vaccines that would be ready if the trials proved to be approved. I am not holding my breath.
Peggy
I don't trust them because of this administration, Carol.
Margaret
This admin has nothing to do with the development and manufacture of these vaccines.
Sloan
Trump Adm did not fund the research and development, Margaret?
According to Wikipedia, Pfizer Inc. is an American multinational pharmaceutical corporation headquartered in New York City. In 2012, it was one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies and ranked 57 on the 2018 Fortune 500 list of the largest United States corporations by total revenue. Wikipedia
NEW YORK & MAINZ, Germany--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program goal to begin delivering 300 million doses of a vaccine for COVID-19 in 2021. Under the agreement, the U.S. government will receive 100 million doses of BNT162, the COVID-19 vaccine candidate jointly developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, after Pfizer successfully manufactures and obtains approval or emergency use authorization from U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
The U.S. government will pay the companies $1.95 billion upon the receipt of the first 100 million doses, following FDA authorization or approval. The U.S. government also can acquire up to an additional 500 million doses.
https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2020/Pfizer-and-BioNTech-Announce-an-Agreement-with-U.S.-Government-for-up-to-600-Million-Doses-of-mRNA-based-Vaccine-Candidate-Against-SARS-CoV-2/default.aspx
NEW YORK & MAINZ, Germany--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program goal to begin delivering 300 million doses of a vaccine for COVID-19 in 2021. Under the agreement, the U.S. government will receive 100 million doses of BNT162, the COVID-19 vaccine candidate jointly developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, after Pfizer successfully manufactures and obtains approval or emergency use authorization from U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
The U.S. government will pay the companies $1.95 billion upon the receipt of the first 100 million doses, following FDA authorization or approval. The U.S. government also can acquire up to an additional 500 million doses.
https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2020/Pfizer-and-BioNTech-Announce-an-Agreement-with-U.S.-Government-for-up-to-600-Million-Doses-of-mRNA-based-Vaccine-Candidate-Against-SARS-CoV-2/default.aspx
Margaret:
Good info, thanks for posting!
Sloan
After Big Pharma made that many doses, what do ya figure the odds are the doses aren’t approved?
Peggy
0%, Sloan! And the bad thing about it is we will never know if we're getting some of those doses or a dose of a tried and true vaccine that's gone through everything it is supposed to go through before final approval is given. I think tom's got the best idea - about Canada!
Sloan
I read reams of doctors curing early stage coronvirus infection pronto with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin, bypassing hospitals and Big Phrama and everything else. Then I read reams of substituting quercetin for the dreaded hydroxychoroquine, as both transport zinc into body cells, where zinc stops coronovirus replication.
Peggy
You have me there. I don't think I've even heard of Quercetin. I might know it under another brand name. My nurse daughter is coming over to do a couple things for me this afternoon so I'll ask her if she knows of its being used here in the hospital where she works. But whatever works on each patient is what the doctors should use. There's no one size fits all when it comes to COVID-19. There are so many factors to consider. All of them are getting zinc, as far as I know, but it changes all the time so that might not even be true right now. I'll have to ask Suzy about that, also. I just read an article about COVID and cancer. The odds are not that good for patients with cancer who get this darned virus, and especially small cell lung ca and breast ca.
Sloan
zinc not effective against coronavirus without hydorxychlorquine or quercetin. The odds are terrific for a covid patient at start of symptoms surviving if they take hydorxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin. America could have reopened in April, if that cure was made freely available.
Peggy
0%, Sloan! And the bad thing about it is we will never know if we're getting some of those doses or a dose of a tried and true vaccine that's gone through everything it is supposed to go through before final approval is given. I think tom's got the best idea - about Canada!
Sloan
I read reams of doctors curing early stage coronvirus infection pronto with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin, bypassing hospitals and Big Phrama and everything else. Then I read reams of substituting quercetin for the dreaded hydroxychoroquine, as both transport zinc into body cells, where zinc stops coronovirus replication.
Peggy
You have me there. I don't think I've even heard of Quercetin. I might know it under another brand name. My nurse daughter is coming over to do a couple things for me this afternoon so I'll ask her if she knows of its being used here in the hospital where she works. But whatever works on each patient is what the doctors should use. There's no one size fits all when it comes to COVID-19. There are so many factors to consider. All of them are getting zinc, as far as I know, but it changes all the time so that might not even be true right now. I'll have to ask Suzy about that, also. I just read an article about COVID and cancer. The odds are not that good for patients with cancer who get this darned virus, and especially small cell lung ca and breast ca.
Sloan
zinc not effective against coronavirus without hydorxychlorquine or quercetin. The odds are terrific for a covid patient at start of symptoms surviving if they take hydorxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin. America could have reopened in April, if that cure was made freely available.
Peggy
I believe, and I'll have to recheck this, also, that most patients are being given zinc and Azithromycin. I'm going to look up Quercetin now to see if I know another brand name for it.
I believe, and I'll have to recheck this, also, that most patients are being given zinc and Azithromycin. I'm going to look up Quercetin now to see if I know another brand name for it.
Sloan
Without hydroxychloroquine, that cure developed by Dr. Zelenko does not work nearly as well, or at all, nothing to research.
President Trump, Big Pharma, the Republicans and Joe Biden and the Democrats blew it by not embracing Dr. Zelenko's cure, and here we are.
Peggy
I just posted info about Quercetin. It's a supplement, not a medication. But a good supplement.
Sloan
Quercetin transports zinc into body cells, which is the key to the whole shebang, zinc getting into body cells, where it defeats covid replication, if the infection is treated that way pronto, otherwise, its M*A*S*H medicine, which makes Big Pharma and hospitals lots of $$$. A symptom of zinc deficiency is loss of taste and smells, is also covid symptom, the dots connect
Dr. Zelenko was sent in by God, and as often with such people, the masses on both side of the isle, did not welcome him.
Laura
Regularly, vaccines take much longer and have several safety regulations built in. I am not sure I would trust this vaccine either.
Sloan
Pretty good article, the Pfizer vaccine has to be taken twice:
"The federal government has purchased 100 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine to be delivered by the end of December, to the tune of nearly $2 billion. Pfizer’s vaccine is a two-dose regiment, meaning those 100 million doses could vaccinate 50 million Americans."
https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwaukee/news/2020/10/09/pfizer-vaccine-s-progress-sets-up-key-authorization-decision
Peggy
I wouldn't and the problem is when we think it's safe to take it, we'll never know if it's a thoroughly trial'd one or if it came from that warehouse! There would be no way we'd know. We wouldn't know the numbers on the bottles.
Peggy
I wouldn't and the problem is when we think it's safe to take it, we'll never know if it's a thoroughly trial'd one or if it came from that warehouse! There would be no way we'd know. We wouldn't know the numbers on the bottles.
Sloan
I hope this vaccine works and the money paid to Pfizer was not wasted, however Dr. Zeleko's cure would have trumped vaccines and other treatments and saved a great deal of taxpayer money and reopened America in April.
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