To Zorro's utter amazement, retired Lucent Technologies Scientist Sancho Panza undertook to defend President Trump not having Dr. Vladimir Zelenko at White House press briefings to explain his battle-field proven, cheap, fast 5-day covid-19 treatment protocol:
Sancho began his defense of President Trump with a response to part of day before yesterday’s Why Democrats, Republicans and the medical-industrial complex might not want the public to know about Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's cheap, fast covid-19 cure post at this blog:
Because all the above good news about HCQ was getting out faster than they could manage it, they cooked up this Data Crunch Epidemiological "study" using the Veteran Database, among others to find negative correlations and give the FDA an out to issue a cautionary report to limit the use of the drug only as part of phony double blind clinical trials that did not include zinc and were given to patients in their last leg... of course they had bad results... they are despicable! Actually, when you see the Dems and their allies in the Media attacking somebody for doing something wrong... it is usually they who are actually doing the wrong and trying to hide it!
Here is a newspaper report on it!
What I can’t wrap mind around is Dr. Zelenko’s cure protocol is THE medical, social and economic defense against covid-19, and Trump would get a lot of votes by parading Dr. Zelenko at press conferences and on Twitter, but Trump isn’t doing that.
Sancho began his defense of President Trump with a response to part of day before yesterday’s Why Democrats, Republicans and the medical-industrial complex might not want the public to know about Dr. Vladimir Zelenko's cheap, fast covid-19 cure post at this blog:
"Based on reader responses at this blog and in Facebook discussions, and what I read elsewhere online, I conclude there is very little interest in the cheap, fast covid-19 cure I have been reporting, which causes me to wonder if (a) Democrats want many more infections and deaths between now and November to turn voters against President Trump; (b) Republicans don’t want the public to know President Trump had the cheap, fast cure in his very small hands in March of this year, but he did not share it will the general public and the media; and (c) the medical-industrial complex doesn't like cheap, fast cures."
I pick (d). All the above.
Because most Politicians and the Media have ties with China and get big bucks from Big Corporations like Amazon, Google, Facebook, Phamaceuticals, Surveillance-IE Tekies(Bill "Vaccine" Gates), etc... DNC's motto, never let a good tragedy go to waste!
But you're obviously wrong about one thing, Trump and Fox Cable news have been talking about HCQ since the beginning... Trump has been vilified for it by the Media and the Dems.... so get your facts straight!!
Here is a Radio interview with Sean Hannity back at the beginning where they bring in another MD to give his opinion on the use of the HCQ-Z-Pak-Zinc protocol:
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Here is a video where Dr. Zelenko calls out Governor Andrew Cuomo for preventing doctors from prescribing his protocol outside of a hospital setting and being part of a Clinical Study(this, in the middle of a war zone)... I don't see you calling him out, like you do Trump, specially since you know that Governors have actually more executive power than Trump in this matter. The reason why Cuomo gets a pass is clear, so many Democrats have praised him as a great manager of this epidemic in contrast to Trump... some even suggested that he, not Biden, should be the Dem Presidential Nominee... this Andrew Cuomo is the same Governor who had Covid-19 patients sent to Nursing Homes, even though everyone knew that the first USA Covid Hotspot started in a nursing home in Washington State and that the Elderly were the most vulnerable population... over 50% of the deaths in NY-NJ area were from Nursing homes infected patients! The Media will not hold his feet to the fire for this blunder because he's their future media darling, just like Obama and Hillary were when they were running! Read the comments in the video!
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Here is Tucker Carlson talking about HCQ and why the Main Stream Media is trying to ignore and vilify it's use:
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Because all the above good news about HCQ was getting out faster than they could manage it, they cooked up this Data Crunch Epidemiological "study" using the Veteran Database, among others to find negative correlations and give the FDA an out to issue a cautionary report to limit the use of the drug only as part of phony double blind clinical trials that did not include zinc and were given to patients in their last leg... of course they had bad results... they are despicable! Actually, when you see the Dems and their allies in the Media attacking somebody for doing something wrong... it is usually they who are actually doing the wrong and trying to hide it!
Zorro replied:
Well, shoot. If you pick (d), that includes "(b) Republicans don’t want the public to know President Trump had the cheap, fast cure in his very small hands in March of this year, but he did not share it will the general public and the media."
I have yet to read or see where Trump mentioned Dr. Zelenko, or his letter, or zinc, for without zinc, based on what I have read and see in some of the videos you provided, hydroxychloroquine gets no where near the results Dr. Zelenko got.
Sean Hannity read Dr. Zelenko's letter on his show. That fucking impressed me. What does not impress me, Trump did not tweet the letter that speaks for itself, cannot be spun, twisted.
As I watched the Tucker Carlson video, I wondered if he would mention Dr. Zelenko and zinc? No. Perhaps he did not know of Dr. Zelvenko or zinc when that show aired? I recall reading that it was Carlson who got Trump's attention, finally, about taking the coronavirus seriously.This is the first I heard of Dr. Zelenko pleading with New York Governor Cuomo not to restrict the use of hydroxycholoroquine. Dr. Z said in that video that he was in battlefield conditions, he needed that drug to take care of his patients. Was there a follow up? Did Cuomo go with Dr. Z's request?
See, I praised Hannity. Too bad Trump didn't have Hannity's balls. Trump said he had final authority when states reopened, and he said he decided when churches would reopen, but he doesn't have final authority to tell Americans to listen to Dr. Zelenko and not Dr. Fauci?
Sancho:
"See, I praised Hannity. Too bad Trump didn't have Hannity's balls. Trump said he had final authority when states reopened, and he said he decided when churches would reopen, but he doesn't have final authority to tell Americans to listen to Dr. Zelenko and not Dr. Fauci?"
Trump did speak out about HCQ way before anybody else in the media had said anything about it... I think the Chinese were experimenting with it first and had done studies on its use with SARS-CoV2... French doctors were using it with success for Covid-19. Trump had to walk a fine line between appearing to be going alone with the Health Establishment, CDC(Fauci), FDA, etc. and looking out for a therapeutic that would mitigate the need to shut the economy down... obviously he had people like Hannity, Dr. Oz, Laura Ingram, Tucker Carlson, etc... to get out the word on HCQ. Trump pushed the FDA to approve HCQ as an off-label drug to treat Covid patients... Trump pushed India to provide 30 millions doses of the drug to the USA... that's how Dr. Zelenko and the doctor that treated my sister were able to use it!
Trump has the Bully pulpit of the Presidency and he can bluster and bluff all he wants, but there is clear separation of executive power between State Governors and the Washington administration, you know better than anybody that we are a Republic, not the Politburo... at any rate, HCQ may not be the de facto cure for every Covid patient, but the concerted effort by Special Interests to keep it from Doctors that are willing to treat their patients(after they both consider risk vs benefits), is in my opinion, criminal!!
Here is a video of a Black Democrat State Congresswoman who was very sick in the hospital and she heard about HCQ from a Trump Covid daily briefings on TV and asked her Doctor to try it and she claims it saved her life... she was vilified by other Democrats for going public and giving credit to trump for her recovery!
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Here is a newspaper report on it!
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Well, actually after listening to her interview you can see that she could not even get into the Hospital in Michigan as they were overfilled... the same thing happen here with my sister, she had to stay waiting in a tent in the parking lot of the hospital to wait around until she could get IV fluids for dehydration, she was sent home a couple of days later because she didn't need a ventilator, she got the HCQ, Z-PAK and Zinc protocol at home... just like this lady!
Zorro:
I know Trump said he'd heard good things about hyroxychloroquine. I give him credit for that. He was such a good American that he refused to wear a face mask and social distance. He used his status to get the drug to use preventively, which I doubt any doctor in America worth his salt was doing for patients. If Trump had stood beside Dr. Zelvenko at a press conference and said, "Listen to this doctor,” perhaps half as many covid-19 related deaths in America, so far? That's what I keep coming back around to. That, and why isn't Trump telling Americans about Dr. Z now, instead of having another tantrum over Twitter fact checking him? A very dear childhood friend is a Republican, voted for Hillary, calls Trump "The Orange Turd", and I think that fits.
Sancho:
The reason is simple, Trump is not suicidal yet... he's very much aware(now) of what your part (b) means in your three-part rhetorical questions. For him, every step is fraught with the fear of political land mines, it is not just a mental exercise by a guy writing a blog... look at the establishment people he has chosen as advisors to legitimize his handling the Chinese Pandemic that has been thrust upon him and he's still been vilifiesd by the Dems and the Media... how long do you think Trump will last in office if he fired Dr. Fauci and put Dr. Zelenko in their place? How long before the Schumer and Pelosi, Romney and Peter king will take our their impeachment knives on the grounds of stopping the mass murderer in chief which you and my compadre have already convicted in your hearts?
Imagine appearing in front of a judge whose legal philosophy is based on Guilt by Omission: "Out of a million options available to you, you didn't select the one that(I think) was the best and therefore you're guilty of the consequences from not doing so". Well heck, in that case, every parent in America is responsible for anything their children have done and/or will ever do!
I am enjoying the craziness all around this country... will a phoenix rise out of the ashes? like I said, Trump has laid bare how hypocritical our "authorities" really are and how far we have moved from what the founding fathers envisioned this country to be... will we ever be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again? I doubt it!
Zorro:
You vilified Dr. Fauci many times as a deep state government doctor puppet of Big Pharma. I never called for Fauci’s ouster and thought he truly was trying to save lives. Where I really depart from Fauci is he is not promoting Dr. Zelenko’s covid-cure protocol, and that’s why I said Trump should have Dr. Zelenko beside him at press conferences, and not Dr. Fauci. The cure is paramount. All the rest is subordinate.
What I can’t wrap mind around is Dr. Zelenko’s cure protocol is THE medical, social and economic defense against covid-19, and Trump would get a lot of votes by parading Dr. Zelenko at press conferences and on Twitter, but Trump isn’t doing that.
Sancho:
Fauci is overrated and is part of the problem with our Healthcare" system... Trump needed him to take the fall if things went south.... that was a mistake... Fauci is a Media creature and has his own special interest in mind! He could care less about saving lives!
Zorro:
And that has to do with Trump not parading Dr. Z, how? Zorro would have to love him
Sancho:
Sometimes I wonder if you're really serious? Dr. Zelenko = Dr. Fauci?
If you new nothing about Dr. Zelenko experience treating Covid-19 patients(thanks to Trump's getting the FDA to approve HCQ as an off-label drug) do you really think you will be calling Trump a hero... or insane for advocating a an unproven treatment? Trump can't win anyway he moves... checkmate!
Zorro:
I knew nothing of Dr. Z, because I was not the recipient of his letter, which President Trump was. Had I been president, I would have called Dr. Z, talked with him, and then done all I could to introduce him and his covid-19 cure to America and the world. I would have done that because I wanted to save lives, society, businesses, stock markets, churches, national and local governments, school and professional sports, etc. That apparently is not Trump's motive, nor yours, since you appointed yourself his lawyer in God's Courtroom.
Sancho:
Given the way you propose to govern as POTUS, If by some miracle you were to have switched bodies with Trump one minute after he got elected, you would have been fast-tracked for impeachment shortly thereafter by unanimous consent! I am willing to bet the farm that you wouldn't have lasted a year! Unless you're a phony, like Obama!
I would have to check on this, but I believe, Trump had mentioned HCQ, BEFORE Dr. Zelenko's letter to Trump... it almost had to be, as it was Trump who prompted the FDA to allow the Off-Label use of HCQ fro Covid-19!
You must be an exclusive Queens Gambit player!?
Zorro:
Heh, if I somehow swapped bodies with Trump, then I would use my intelligence services to track you down and drag you into the Offal Orifice and make you an offer you could not refuse. I leave the details to your imagination. Beyond that, Americans would not know the swap had been made and if I kept my big mouth shut and let it keep running like Trump's mouth, then I might live a while longer. Note I said live. Not last, as in office. If I started talking like me, it would be a show nuff' daily reality TV show MAGAs, Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents, etc. would not care much for, until - impeachment would take way too long - I was shot, stabbed, poisoned, strangled, blown up, thrown out a window.
Without zinc, hydroxychloroquine is about as effective as Trump screaming he was not properly advised by his intelligence services about covoid-19.
Sancho:
"Without zinc, hydroxychloroquine is about as effective as "
I think it might work OK as a prophylaxis, not as a treatment for somebody that is already sick; assuming that it will interact with the zinc that people obtain from their regular diet and protect the cells that way... I think that's how Trump was using it!
Do you have a link to the video where "Trump's screaming he was not properly advised by his intelligence services about covoid-19" ???? Please provide, thanks!
Don Q:
I read online the day before yesterday, I think, about Trump blaming his intelligence services, and a friend mentioned it later, but I was unable to find anything online just now to that effect. There is a lot online that Trump was warned in January and February about covid-19 by his intelligence services.
I continue hearing people flack Dr. Zelenko and not answer directly my question: "IF you were dying from covid-19, would you take Dr. Zelenko's treatment protocol if that was the only way to stay alive?" Good thing your sister isn't a "flat-earther"!
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