San Francisco Chronicle, dated same day as President Trump unveiled Project Wart Speed to develop coronavirus vaccine by end of this year.
Re: San Francisco Chronicle: 5 sailors aboard
Roosevelt carrier retest positive for coronavirus a 2nd time
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Five-sailors-aboard-Roosevelt-carrier-retest-15273804.php
Excerpts:
All five sailors had previously tested positive and were
evacuated off the ship, which has been stuck in Guam since late March after the
virus swept through the close quarters of the nuclear-powered carrier. They
spent at least 14 days in quarantine on the island; the healthy sailors
isolated in individual hotel rooms and the infected sailors together in group
quarantine on the naval base. The sailors were allowed back on the Roosevelt
only after testing negative twice, the tests administered at least 48 hours
apart.
The Navy said those handful of sailors who retested positive
this week “met rigorous recovery criteria, exceeding CDC guidelines."
I emailed the Chronicle link to Sancho Panza, who replied:
Assuming that this is not more fake news...
the question becomes why were these people retested for active infection? Were
they showing symptoms equal or similar to the same time they were tested? If
the whole ship was tested, including those w/o symptoms, how do we know that
these people were not falsely found to be positive the first time around? The
best test is the antibody blood test... which is fairly new so I doubt that is
the one being reported here! You would need to determine if these sailors had
acquired immunity from the first exposure to the virus and still got infected a
second time... other than that antibody test, this is all hype! There is
a lot of hype going on to keep the economy shut.... politically speaking, I'll
give you one guess as to Cui bono?
Here is another one like that: 'Weird as hell’: the Covid-19
patients who have symptoms for months
Don Quixote:
Fake news? The U.S. Navy would make this up
and let the world know that one of its flagship aircraft carriers is still
disabled by COVID -19?
The implication for warships, military bases
and operations is something straight out of a Stephen King novel, or Act of
God?
Does COVID-19 portend less military, or at
least fewer land, sea and perhaps air wars with human personnel on front
lines?
Your ensuing two questions suggest you did not
open the link and read the article.
"the question becomes why were these
people retested for active infection? Were they showing symptoms equal or
similar to the same time they were tested?"
From the San Francisco Chronicle article:
While onboard, these five TR sailors self-monitored and adhered
to the strict social distancing protocols established by the Navy,” the Navy
said. “These five sailors developed influenza-like illness symptoms and did the
right thing reporting to medical for evaluation. The sailors were immediately
removed from the ship and placed back in isolation, their close contacts were
mapped, and they are receiving the required medical care.”
A defense official said this new issue arose when one sailor,
who had been asymptomatic even after testing positive and in group quarantine
on the base, began to show flu-like symptoms. Contact tracing led to about 20
other sailors, and four of those tested positive. The others tested negative
and were sent to Guam hotels to begin a new round of 14-day quarantine, the
official said.
I read the Guardian article you sent on the Brit Paul
Gardner, who compared his COVID-19 symptoms to dengue fever. More Stephen King genre.
Import for vaccine? Military? Families? Businesses? Governments? Churches?
Sporting events? Rock concerts? MAGA rallies? Article doesn't say Garner sought
any medical treatment.
Sancho:
Fake news abounds everywhere, so these days
you have to include that as a disclaimer! I did open the article(there is no
specifics on the issues I raised) and my previous questions still stand! You're
sidetracking the issue and the true implication of the article which is that we
should all be very afraid because even after you have had the Corona virus
infection, you do not acquire immunity and therefore all bets are off and you
can never reopen the country! I would say that this a flawed conclusion based
on what we know about this case(not a controlled study). It is an argument that
has no precedence and I would also argue that the only way to ascertain
immunity is by the antigen specific antibody test! If COVID-19 infection
does not lead antibody production and herd immunity, then a vaccine would be
useless and we will never get rid of this virus!
Here is some background on immunoglobilin
testing: Antibody tests could be key to
reopening the country. Here's how they work.
Humans, and pretty much all living things,
carry within many commensal and parasitical viruses and bacteria, fungi, etc...
you know that I have been looking at this for a while now... I have even
implied to you that your angels and Jesus temptation by the Devil while fasting,
may be related to the same phenomena, but I digress! Yes, parasitical
microorganisms that cause symptoms of Dengue fever, Malaria fever, Herpes,
etc... do go into remission and do "express" themselves when the
conditions become propitious for them to do so.. it's a dance... you know a lot
about that dance!!!
Why the article? It's just what's selling
right now! Humans love to be scared and some people are jumping on this
pandemic to come out ahead!
Don Q:
I understood your science “Dissertation” both times,
and I understood the implication of the article, which is why I likened it to a
Stephen King scenario or Act of God. That it’s about a US aircraft carrier
where the strictest discipline and controls are applied makes it credible. That
it broke in the news same day of Trump’s National pep rally unveiling Operation
Warp Speed is cosmic.
Sancho:
I see, well I will have to look up that film...sounds
like a good one and apropos, Stephen king is pretty imaginative, like you!😀
Don Q:
The Stephen King serial is running daily.
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