Sunday, July 5, 2020

I will vote for President Trump if he fires his FDA director and offers pardons to American doctors and pharmacists who give hydroxychloroquine and zinc to patients infected with Covid-19

This below was posted July 4 on Facebook by a retired nurse. I responded, and what then followed opened my eyes to how I could vote for Donald Trump in November.
Mutation in new coronavirus increases chance of infection
A specific mutation in the new coronavirus can significantly increase its ability to infect cells, according to a study by U.S. researchers.
The research may explain why early outbreaks in some parts of the world did not end up overwhelming health systems as much as other outbreaks in New York and Italy, according to experts at Scripps Research.
The mutation, named D614G, increased the number of "spikes" on the coronavirus - which is the part that gives it its distinctive shape. Those spikes are what allow the virus to bind to and infect cells.
"The number--or density--of functional spikes on the virus is 4 or 5 times greater due to this mutation," said Hyeryun Choe, one of the senior authors of the study.
The researchers say that it is still unknown whether this small mutation affects the severity of symptoms of infected people, or increases mortality.
The researchers conducting lab experiments say that more research, including controlled studies - widely considered a gold standard for clinical trials, needs to be done to confirm their findings from test tube experiments.
Older research has showed that the new coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is mutating and evolving as it adapts to its human hosts. The D614G mutation in particular has been flagged as an urgent concern because it appeared to be emerging as a dominant mutation.
The Scripps Research study is currently undergoing peer review and was released on Friday amid reports of its findings.
(Reporting by Manas Mishra in Bengaluru: Editing by Bernard Orr)

  • Peggy Butler This is not good news, folks. Very frightening!
  • Sloan Bashinsky Will early ingestion of hydroxychloroquine and zinc also facilitate zinc getting into body cells and inhibit this mutation strain replicating, as well as original c19? America had that cure since last March. Saving lives, permanent lung damage, jobs, businesses, social functions, churches, sports, schools and universities, etc could have happened using that cocktail. Trump told America about it, but he never ordered it being made freely available.
    • Peggy Butler From my information (from the scientists) this combination has not been effective or safe in some COVID-19 patients, Sloan. Since I'm not working in the field now, I can't speak to it any more than that. I think you'd have to ask the doctors and nurses who are taking care of COVID-19 patients whether they're using it or not and what the percentages are of the patients who've been unable to tolerate the combination of hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Peggy Butler did you personally talk with one scientist who gave a c19 infected person not yet in icu ward 220 mg zinc phosphate 1x daily and 200 mg hcq 2x daily for just 5 days?
    • Peggy Butler Sloan Bashinsky Of course not, but I believe them. I don't have to see them do it. I tagged you on a WHO article.
    • Sloan Bashinsky If Trump were to fire the FDA director he appointed, because he outlawed using hcq for C-19, and replace him with a FDA director who would reverse that director's edict, or if Trump simply would tell American doctors and pharmacists to prescribe HCQ and zinc for C-19 and he will pardon them if they are prosecuted, I would vote for him for at least trying to save America from C-19 and people who, sadly, think like you do.

    • Sloan Bashinsky The WHO director's comments were not based on studies which included zinc. Zinc is the key ingredient. There is nothing magical. Nothing fancy. Zinc inhibits covid-19 replication after HQC facilitates zinc entering body cells. Side effects after 5 days use of HQC no factor, given decades of HQC use by malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients. Here's a link to a hospital study that did use zinc and found patients not yet seriously ill with with covid-19 showed significant improvement.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Here's a link to the March 23, 2020 letter from the doctor who invented the 5-day cure to all world medical practitioners, copied to President Trump and his chief of staff. Sean Hannity soon read that letter on his FOX show and had Dr. Zelenko on the show to say more. I can't help but wonder if you and many people ignore Dr. Zelenko because beating Trump in November is the most important thing. What I cannot fathom is why Trump did not himself promote Dr. Zelenko at press briefings, and why Trump did not override his FDA director.after he banned HCQ from being prescribed to treat covid-19. I can only conclude Trump is an idiot, or he wants a lot more Americans to catch Covid-19 and they and America suffer those consequences.


Gloria Reiser said...

I wish I had not lost the links for what I'm about to say, and I will see if I may be able to locate those links to provide later. The links were regarding studies that supposedly prove Hydroxychloroquine and zinc ineffective or causing harm. The issue is that one study used only 25mg of Hydroxychloroquine + zinc (and proved ineffective), while another, the study showing increased mortality, used a toxic amount of hydroxychloroquine (resulting in increased mortality). Another study - published in Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine - obviously without any vetting or even critical thinking, was called out and proven totally bogus! How any scientist could justify those studies as equivalent and disproving of Dr. Zelenko's formula is beyond me. They are not equivalent.

We know that zinc can shorten the duration of the common cold (coronavirus). Zicam proved that 2 decades ago with their original nasal swabs. The thing was that directions read you were to insert the swab just inside each nostril, pinch the nostril and swirl the swab around. I think usage was 4x per day. It worked. Zicam would stop a head cold in its tracks in 24 hours or less for me. Instruction plainly stated NOT to insert a swab deeper into the nostril nor to sniff the medication up higher into the nostril. And yet by the time less than 100 people failed to follow clear instructions.... and reported impairment of sense of smell, the swabs were pulled from the market. Zicam swabs are available under new formula that does not contain zinc. They are not very effective at all. Zicam is also available in tablet form including zinc .... however oral Zicam is upsetting to the digestive track, and fewer individuals opt for that form. There was a Zicam in the form of tiny pellets to be dissolved under the tongue, that worked nearly as well as the nasal swabs (the formula included zinc), and yet it seems to have disappeared as well. I wonder WHY? Thus a quick easy fix for the common cold became virtually unavailable.

Consider the medical cost of visits to walk in clinics, urgent care or a general physician by those seeking to shorten duration of their head cold so as not to have to miss work and other events while ill. Some fortunate individuals are able to navigate a head cold without missing a beat. Others of us may be felled for five days to a week or more. Should those who are capable of following directions for a medication be penalized because of those dim bulbs who don't or won't? It certainly is not the case regarding expensive prescription medications. Big Pharma.... pffft!

And now we have a virus more dangerous.... and again, hell no, we can't have zinc with the push (hydroxychloroquine) that gets it INTO cells to do its work.

Sloan said...

Sounds about right to me, but the obvious push by Dr. Fauci, CDC, the FDA director, WHO, BigPharma, Medical Industrial Complex, brainwashed Americans to let Covid-19 destroy America (economy, social fabric, etc.) aside, the fact remains, the guy you voted for in 2016, Donald Trump, could turn the entire thing around, but he went off chasing far more important things, like holding large public maskless gatherings. I swan, I wonder if Trump is a secret agent of Red China or Putin Russia?

Gloria Reiser said...

I wonder.... COULD Trump have a ghost of a chance really turning anything around when everything he's tried to do has been blocked and decried WRONG from day one? Or would he just be obstructed and blocked again? Remember when he wanted to close the border to people coming in from Wuhan? There are some powerful forces with major skin in this game. They want him OUT and they want expensive pharmaceuticals and a mandated vaccine to be the fix for Covid 19 aka SARS-CoV-2.

As for Trump and events, do you recall Nancy Pelosi's much publicized visit to China Town? As only one example of the DNC's stance re Covid early on, as compared with Trump's. Nobody's got it right yet. As for those favoring masks (I am one of those) and those refusing to wear a mask.... some of those are on the left, some on the right.

We will see how things go when the Deep State has regained full control, which barring some major event shifting the current energy stream will Take place in January.

Sloan said...

Trump is president, he hires and fires at will. The issue is not can he turn anything around? The issue is, he has in his paw a cure for most Covid-19 infections and he let his FDA director ban that cure and get away with it. I'm looking at this politically and spiritually. Trump is the only person in America with a chance of providing that cure to America. He is on trial in God's court about that. Human courts, public opinion and otherwise, are blind to his crime, and you are one of his accomplices, since you do not call him to task.

Gloria Reiser said...

Hehe... it don't have a direct line to the President of the U.S., unfortunately. But he is not the ONLY one "on trial in God's court" as you put it .... racking up some MAJOR KARMA in my lexicon.

Sloan said...

We all are on trial in God's Court. You keep giving Trump a pass at this blog on his blowing the "miracle" God delivered to him via Dr. Zelenko. Nobody asked you to write to Trump, but you did vote for him, and that puts you in a different category from people who did not vote for him.

Gloria Reiser said...

And I'm good with that