Friday, April 10, 2020

progressive Vermonter embraces Darwinian coronavirus protocol, while Libtard-hater says George Soros lab in Wuhan invented virus to defeat Trump

Today brings Darwinian coronavirus protocol from a progressive Vermont amiga, who loves Bernie Sanders, followed by a Libtard-hater's allegation that George Soros lab in China created the virus to defeat President Trump in 2020.

I recommend clicking my Vermont amiga's link and learning what the "Darwinian" epidemiologist has to say. I joined the discussion late in the thread.
  • Dan Anderson That was exactly the thinking of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Of course the British Trump now is in intensive care fighting for his life.
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson kind of an odd response. Since I just posted this, you have not taken the time to listen to his interview. To address PM Johnson, how was his health? Quite the fitness guy, is he? No smoking. Got out and ran every day? Did yogic breathing? I think not. You can't take an individual case and throw that at science.
    • Dan Anderson Paula, I did read the article. What I find curious is this article contradicts what Bernie has been recommending, in fact what he and Stephen Colbert were discussing in your previous post.
      Stay safe. Nomaste
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Dan Anderson I don’t follow Bernie blindly. No one should. I’m just past half way on the videoed interview. Its fascinating. He’s predicting a second wave this fall because we have not let it progress naturally. People at risk need to stay quarantined of course. Elder homes on shut down etc. I’m sorry you’re not more curious.
    • Dan Anderson Paula, I believe we are all curious. I read what I find time for. Listening to every blog takes too much time.
    • Sonya Johnsen Paula Heikens-Mathewson so are you and your family going to go out and get exposed? I’m mean if your kids aren’t immune and die you would be ok with that then?
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Sonya, i know this is counter intuitive to what we have all been taught in the past month. And you are wanting to challenge me on this concept. I understand, but your question does no good. I thought this inner FB group of friends was about being awake. I commit to that. If this is too disruptive for you then just pass on it. I will never know, but I don't have to defend a person: longtime head of the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at the Rockefeller University in New York City. If you have the passion I think you do about what is going on in the world, you can listen to his interview.

    • Dan Anderson Here's a good article, that goes into more detail on how to strategically work on herd immunity, not just blindly open all the doors. I particularly like the description of Germany's public health strategy.
      "The Germans are doing massive testing and isolating conf
      irmed cases while ramping up hospital care capacity and incentivizing innovation. Most importantly, they are progressively reopening their economy by issuing "certificates of immunity" to frontline workers and others who test positive for antibodies of the virus (i.e. serology test). A crazy idea? Not if you value both public health and the economy."

      More herd immunity, less herd mentality

      More herd immunity, less herd mentality
      More herd immunity, less herd mentality
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Dan Anderson I would say this is a bit more than a blog. Like I told my other friend. Move on if this is too disruptive to your paradigm.
    • Dan Anderson Also, I have been stymied at trying to receive an antibody blood test. I came down with a sudden onset of pneumonia about 5 weeks ago, very sick for maybe two weeks. With my truck driving across numerous states I might easily have encountered the virus. If I could prove that I have had coronavirus I would more confidently
      enter the workforce.
    • Dan Anderson Paula, Please don't be defensive. I thought we were sharing opinions and information.
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson I don't feel defensive. I am sharing some science. I have been asked some personal questions to defend this man's position.
    • Sonya Johnsen Paula Heikens-Mathewson I did listen that’s why I commented. When you put something on FB expect you will get comments. You gave me the impression that you were for this since you brought it up. The concept may work for animals but not for humans. And I dare say animals suffer too!
    • Diane Kaganova Paula Heikens-Mathewson Bernie is not a scientist!!! omg.
    • Dan Anderson Diane Kaganova OMG You're right.

    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Sonya Johnsen herd immunity does work. there are just different percentages for different diseases as far as I can tell. There is also evidence that not contracting certain illnesses reduces a person's immune system from naturally building strength for later in life. These are hard topics. Personal choices that we assume affect a population. No, not easy at all. Thank you for listening to the interview. Not sure if many did. To answer your question, it does not make sense for one person to buck the system right now. It wouldn't affect the outcome. This guy makes sense and not the first person in the medical world to have said it. It's been gnawing at me since we all went on lock down. There is a panic being created which does not negate the fact that people are dying from covid19. Stay well, Friend. I didn't mean to cause added stress to life right now. But ya, I think this guy and others have a good point. Bill Gates is going to win with his latest lab experiment. But that is another topic.

  • Lucy Gooding Wow, I just moved on in my reading of other news posts, articles, etc. and this shows up a few minutes after reading and commenting on your post:

    Bill Gates: 'We're in big trouble' until the U.S. has better coronavirus testing

    Bill Gates: 'We're in big trouble' until the U.S. has better coronavirus testing
    Bill Gates: 'We're in big trouble' until the U.S. has better coronavirus testing

  • Lucy Gooding And read this yesterday about Singapore, on their second wave now:

    Singapore's second wave of cases is a glimpse at what the US may be in for
    Singapore's second wave of cases is a glimpse at what the US may be in for
    Singapore's second wave of cases is a glimpse at what the US may be in for

  • Diane Kaganova Paula...the big problem here is that this SARs-CoV2 is super unpredictable and it suddenly and rapidly morphs into a life threatening emergency in individuals of all ages.

  • Sloan Bashinsky Whoops?
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Sloan Bashinsky that’s what I’m thinking.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Paula Heikens-Mathewson embrace tiger, return to mountain. Surrender to the virus, pack the churches today and Sunday, return to work, open the schools, colleges, restaurants, bars, movie theaters, parks , beaches, hotels, motels, casinos, professional and school sports, catch it, endure it, recover, or die. While old and or sickly people either join the party or stay home and die in other ways until they catch it and they survive or not. Morticians and body bag makers get very rich, buy their companies' common stock. Meanwhile, under resisting the tiger program, what happens after half the farmers go broke, unemployment benefits run out, oh, assuming they ever started, and Congress stops giving away money?
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Sloan Bashinsky I'm not sure the dire story of death you tell here lines up with the interview. Older and vulnerable or all sorts succumb to flu, pneumonia, broken hip, broken heart, all varieties of respiratory / circulatory ailments. And our nation especially supports diabetes. Morticians historically have always been rich. Dang hippys want green burials now or get put into a tree pot or ashes into a glass orb for all eternity. Resisting the tiger is also resulting in increased suicides and domestic abuse. Our tiny little pediatrics practice has seen an increase in mental issues in the past month. We are made for survival of the fittest. We protect the vulnerable as best we can. I'm worried that if we do not embrace the tiger, Bill Gates will be despot and our rights will be taken away if we are not shot up with his latest money maker vaccine. Embrace the tiger ….

    • Sloan Bashinsky I looked online, do not see Gates has a vaccine, he is part of a coalition funding research. I'd rather see him profit from a vaccine, than China, if it comes down to that. Below is a link to an article about Gates, it's written by someone beholden to Gates, but it seems pretty broad spectrum. A vaccine is the best hope for older and/or sickly people. I don't see elders venturing out of hiding anytime soon. Senior centers are closed indefinitely. A duplicate bridge club I belong to, all seniors, closed indefinitely. Senior centers and bridge clubs all over America closed. Dance clubs closed. Many churches closed. Farmers who grew vegetables for commercial and institutional (restaurants, schools, etc.) food suppliers, such as Sysco, are burning or plowing back in their crops. People cannot apply for unemployment because the unemployment offices don't have the manpower to handle the huge surge in applications. President Trump is taking over the government in ways Bill Gates could never imagine himself doing. Trump and the Republicans will fight hard to prevent mail in voting this year, because they figure more Republicans will risk their lives to vote at voting places, than Democrats.

      Announcing the COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator

      Announcing the COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator
      Announcing the COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator

Now, the Libtard-hater's post:
Tom Long
  • John Pinta You know it’s true
  • Michael A Welch Malaysia crashed my economy
  • Michael A Welch They crashed my economy
  • Sloan Bashinsky I listened to the tape. Did Soros also create a vaccine to protect himself and people he cares about? If not, he blew a chance to make a lot more money and protect himself and people he cares about.

    I think you know, Tom, that a while back I publish
    ed on my blog and Facebook that friend of mine said archangel Michael told him in a dream that the virus was developed by China in a Wuhan bio lab for population control and a vaccine was supposed to be developed also, and the virus got loose before the vaccine developed. As if something spoke through me, I told my friend, if China had the virus and the vaccine, that would be a terrible weapon to hold the world hostage an that could not be allowed. So, something set the virus loose.

    I see news reports and conservative publications decrying China profiteering world wide from the virus, and U S company factories in China profiteering too. Looks like China and china-based US factories holding world hostage. .
    • Sloan Bashinsky Trump and his intelligence services know who created the virus, if it is Soros, that would be on Fox News. Trump doesn’t know how to tag China, and not make everything worse.
    • Tom Long President Trump is fighting a multi fronted battle... he’s trying to do the best he can for Us; while as usual having to put up with and deal with the Out of Control Deep State, New World Order, Communist Controlled Ultra Left Libturds.... AND, He will Succeed...
    • Sloan Bashinsky Looks to me China virus trumped and wrecked all of that and blaming the Democrats, the Deep State and President Obama, who I did not like or vote for, won't change a thing. Are those American corporations' factories in red China run by Democrats or Republicans? Will Trump and his packed Supreme Court let Republicans and Democrats and all others mail in their votes, or tell voters to stand in huge long lines and risk dying to vote? Will Trump declare himself president for life? He floated that idea after he got elected the first time. Will Trump use the Defense Production Act to order those American companies operating in China to bring their factories back to America? Or be nationalized? Will Trump cancel America's $1-plus trillion debt to China? Will Trump haul China before the World Court?

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