Monday, February 24, 2020

Maybe if America was more like Jesus in the Gospels, the great divide in America today would not exist?

Jesus ministers to leper

My two previous national politics outings produced spirited reader comments from ever Trumpers and never Hillarys or Bernies.
Three nights ago, my mysterious friend, Young Prophet (YP), reported by phone a dream of a monster flaming bear, much larger than a Kodiak grizzly, set North Carolina ablaze and did that down through Georgia and Alabama into the Florida panhandle and down the west coast and central and south Florida into the Florida Keys until it reached Key West where do-gooders resisted and the bear self-immolated.
  • Lee Green Hope not! Don’t want a Socialist🤬🤬
  • Tom Long Trump 2020!!!

    • far from perfect Bernie Sanders looks a whole lot more like Jesus than do Donald Trump and Republican Party
      far from perfect Bernie Sanders looks a whole lot more like Jesus…
      far from perfect Bernie Sanders looks a whole lot more like Jesus than do Donald Trump and Republican Party

    • Sloan Bashinsky excerpts from that post:

      Sure looks to me Jesus was a socialist.

      It's more blessed to give than to receive;
      Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap;
      If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.

      For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.

      The righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

      The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'

      In Acts of the Apostles, Peter led a community in which every member put all he or she had into a common pot and received back what she or he needed. One married couple said they had put in everything they had, but they had held something back, and when Peter confronted the man, he admitted it and Peter said he was sorry and the man dropped dead, and the same happened to the woman after Peter told her what had happened to her husband

      Bernie Sanders is far from perfect, but he looks a whole lot more like Jesus and Peter than do Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

  • Walt Lagraves So, Jesus was a socialist according to Sloan! That suggests that Sloan believes that socialism is the light of the world. Sloan conveniently forgets that Jesus was/is God. And that Jesus also said: "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God’s." Certainly, that tells us that God’s work, i.e. charity, and government must not conjoin.

    Socialism has a myriad of fatal faults, and we must thank Sloan for pointing out one of its most egregious flaws the requirement of absolute obedience and obeisance to the ruling class. Sloan tells us of what he apparently considers to be a utopian, biblical, socialist society wherein those who fail to contribute all that they own/produce to the commonweal…….are killed by God.

    Sloan would have us believe that the prosperity that we all are enjoying, the freedoms that we all enjoy, the very existence of our loved ones and ourselves are all worth sacrificing in order to defeat Trump.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Well, Walt, gosh, I quoted Jesus verbatim in the Gospels. What he said there speaks for itself, unless you don't believe he said it. Peter's community described in Acts also speaks for itself, unless you don't believe that community existed. I don't think the word socialism existed when Jesus and Peter walked on this world. But the way they reportedly lived and others in their circles lived sure looks a lot like socialism to me. Perhaps you should have directed your Republican-right comment at them, or at the people who wrote those Bible passages?
    • Walt Lagraves Golly Gee Whiz Sloan...I directed my remarks to you simply because you put forward the notion that socialism is superior to capitalism. But in the same set of comments, you suggest that that the killing of any person who fails to be a perfect socialist is biblically correct. By putting forward the notion, it certainly tells us that you agree with the concept. One need look no further than the failed Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparteierpartei, East Germany, Cuba, Venezuela, and India and Israel both experimented with Socialism and rejected it. Bernie Sanders is dead set on class warfare...his theories of governance are a poison pill for our liberties and our society. We will survive the crassness and character flaws of Trump. But, it's likely that Bernies lunacy will be the death knell of our freedoms and prosperity.
    • Jim Brooks I thought Jesus parable of Talents Matthew 25:14-30 makes it pretty clear that capitalism is the way to go!
    • Sloan Bashinsky Jim Brooks That parable is about abilities and potential, not money specifically. However, if one does have the talent for making money, then comes the test of how one goes about it, honestly and hard work? hook or crook?, and what one does with any fortune that is made?
    • Sloan Bashinsky Walt Lagraves As for God killing the man and woman because they did not share all that they had, that's not exactly how it is told in Acts. They represented that they had shared all that they had, and they had not, and when Peter confronted them about lying about what they had shared, they dropped dead.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Walt Lagraves As for class warfare, what about Trump, the MAGAs and the Republicans who demonize liberals and socialists? Maybe if America was more like Jesus in the Gospels, the great divide in America would not exist?
  • Gloria Reiser But haven't you heard. The Russians are attempting to rig the election for him too, via divide and conquer of other dems. I don't think those other dems need any help being and staying divided. A plus for Bernie is I doubt very much he would invite Hillary to the VP slot.
    • Sloan Bashinsky The National Intelligence Agency Russia interference report was mentioned in my day before blog post, Never Hillary voters like yourself and Russia helped Trump win in 2016, and while Hillary may or may not be in play this year, still too early to tell, Russia appears at it again, and Trump was furious that made its way into the public eye. Looks like the Dems have fractured themselves without any help from Russia - just watch the Dem debates. Bernie and Elizabeth Warren said in 2016 that Hillary was not fit to be president, but after Hillary and the DNC's dirty tricks helped her get the Dem nomination, Bernie and Warren were on national TV embracing and endorsing Hillary. But I don't see what any of that has to do with Trump and his MAGAs and Republicans, probably 95 percent of whom say they are saved by Jesus, have demonized liberals and socialism, ignoring, apparently, that Jesus in the Gospels appears quite liberal and full of notions that socialism centuries later claimed as its own.

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