Monday, May 20, 2019

too bad President Trump didn't have a big enough pair to come down like a lighting bolt from God on the Talibama legislature and governor for banning rape and incest abortions

Reader comment to yesterday's America's worst nightmare comes true: like Iran, no separation of church and state post at this blog:
Your observation that Extremism, in this case you cite religious extremism (as it is too often practiced by lazy and self-righteous Non-Thinkers) IS 'dead on'. As in the DEAD Separation of Church and State you mentioned too. In Spirit if not in Fact. Yet. I will however, decline sending a 'thank-you note' to Mr. T. At least it APPEARS he may not be an ABSOLUTE EXTREMIST after all. Just, well, extreme.

This part of yesterday's post grew more entertaining legs:
  • Luis M Sanchez-Covisa

    Luis M Sanchez-Covisa i think equating sharia law and anti-abortion laws is genius. let's see how many muslims become republicans. jajajajaja
    • Sloan Bashinsky

      Sloan Bashinsky I wish it had been my original idea, but it started popping up online and I swiped it, because it felt so damn dead on to 76-year-old me, who was born and raised in Alabama, and got serious doses of Southern Baptist-isms growing up. What amazes me is educated people like Jack Wright, who lived across the street from me in Birmingham, and Walt Legraves, whom I got to know when I lived in the Florida Keys, seem not capable of being sobered up. For if what the Republican Alabama legislature and governor did, did not sober them up, then can anything short of Jesus appearing in front of them, like he did Saul of Tarsus, according to the Bible, and knocked them off their horses and struck them blind?
    • Walt Lagraves

      Walt Lagraves Sloan...once again you've called it wrong. I am not a religious person, my personal beliefs are very close to those of many of our Founders. Deism.

      In our Declaration of Independence, our very first founding document, in the second sentence, we find a national commitment to the right to life. Our laws and our society deem murder the be the most heinous crime that can be committed. Nonetheless we demand that convicting and executing a person for murder be subjected to the most rigorous judicial review and legal process that can be imagined. Then, we demand that the execution itself be "humane." Many states have laws that decree that if a pregnant woman is the victim of criminal homicide and her in utero infant also dies, the murderer can be criminally charged with a second count of homicide.

      But in the USA last year about 500,000 infants were killed by either having their bodies torn apart while they were alive and capable of feeling pain, or of being burned to death by chemicals. Their deaths were agonal. Not one of those homicides was subjected to even a hint of judicial process. Virtually all of those victims were put to death because they were an inconvenience to their mother.
    • Luis M Sanchez-Covisa
      Luis M Sanchez-Covisa also the feticide laws say that the language is not in contradiction with abortion and no conviction under those laws has ever been upheld. on the other hand, as an anarchist, i think nobody has the right to legislate over my body. that goes to what poison i want to ingest (cigarettes, cocaine, etc) or which part i want to mutilate. be a person, then you'll have rights. a person becomes a person after (not before) he/she survives birth. it's the law but also commons sense.
    • Sloan Bashinsky
      Sloan Bashinsky Walt Lagraves Walt, in the Florida Keys, you are well known as FTR (From The Right). Yet, it was you who asked our mutual friend for we three to have a meet. You who had been reading my so-called certifiable publishings at our mutual friend's online public forum and at my blogs. I did not seek you out. I gladly, however, accepted your overture. You have turned from the right into a religion. You have much company. There is as much of that on the left side, too. I wish for you that in the next life, you come back as a woman and have multiple pregnancies you don't want and are forced by a religious-fanatic government to bring them to term and raise them to adulthood with zero financial help from that government. The side you detest is not my side, either. They have gone bonkers hollering women's rights. I published the other day that abortions should be allowed through the third month of pregnancy, and after that only to protect the mother who has become at grave risk. That, however, is for her and her doctor, not someone like you, or President Trump, to decide. There was a time, Walt, when i would ask someone who carries on like you do, In what way or ways do you identify with aborted fetuses? In what ways were you aborted, or murdered, in your past? So that you are so upset that you seem incapable of reaching middle ground? I used to ask the right to choice fanatics the same thing? In what way were they denied free choice in the past, so that they so now identify with the pregnant women being controlled by the like of you, that they also cannot find the middle ground? Here's the deal, Walt. When a person so identifies with a cause that he merges with it, becomes it, he loses the witness, the inability to step back and self-examine, a God-complex, which is, to use your word, certifiable.
    • Sloan Bashinsky
      Sloan Bashinsky Luis M Sanchez-Covisa Seems the law on when a person becomes a person is a moving target, Luis. Depends on makeup of U.S. Supreme Court? Well, the legal definition, anyway.. There are all sorts of other definitions, including this one from the Christian Bible:

      Genesis 2:7, which the right wing Christians never seem to quote during their jihad:

      "Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
    • Walt Lagraves
      Walt Lagraves No Sloan...according to your writings, you are not "certifiable" you have been certified. Your writings are nonsensical, without reason or logic. I believe that the term is "magical thinking." Just for the record, I enjoyed that dinner, it was an interesting experience. Very much like examining a very strange creature.
    • Sloan Bashinsky
      Sloan Bashinsky Trust me, Walter, the reason i accepted your overture, was to examine you. I figured you were up to the same. My writings make sense. Can't help it if you can't understand them. I amend my earlier comment regarding your next lifetime, your multiple pregnancies are the result of being raped by your brothers.🤣 That not even a Deist right winger like you came down like a lightning bolt from God on the Republican Alabama legislature and governor, for banning abortions caused by rape or incest, leaves me wondering if the word, sense, in your dictionary was switched with nonsense? Hell, not even President Trump could swallow that demonic activity. Too bad he didn't have a big enough pair to tell that directly to the Republican Alabama legislature and governor. If I were the Democrats, I'd be salivating over the hope that millions of Republican women, who won't say it out loud, will be so fed up with American Republican men by 2020, that they secretly vote for someone else, or for none of the above, or don't vote.
    • Sloan Bashinsky
      Sloan Bashinsky I'm sure, Walter, this especially will interest you. I felt so bad internally most of today, that I figured anyone else I knew would have headed to the ER. I figured it was something I was dealing with in this totally insane world, but it took a while, and a telephone conversation with a friend, to cause me to think it was about the Alabama demonic activity and its regional and national brother and sister demonic activity. Then, I went online and saw your and Jack Wright's fetching comments, and Luis Sanchez and Dr. Tom Graves' comments, and I put all of that together in a post at my fool's errand blog, and then the internal toxic waste dump began to relax, and then it all got shit out of me, literally, and I felt many heaps better, which I took to mean I had taken care of what God had stuck into me during last night to deal with today. Every bit of that makes sense, Walter. That you may not believe any of it is yet another matter.
    • Luis M Sanchez-Covisa
      Luis M Sanchez-Covisa yeah, when it became political it shifts with the wind... what was then a 'right', now becomes a new court decision. vote and live with it, or resist, and deal with that too. so Sloan you are a living being because the Lord hath breathed in your nostrils? sounds almost biological.... a discussion without end. my position in this topic is the following: i hope SCOTUS overturns roe v wade and makes all abortions illegal, and then deal with the social issues. roe v wade did not come out of a demonic vacuum either
    • Sloan Bashinsky
      Sloan Bashinsky Luis M Sanchez-Covisa Agreed. There is plenty of demonic activity on both sides of this collective American miasm, so that the Devil doesn't have to do anything but sit back and watch and enjoy, like what happened during the 2016 presidential election.
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