Monday, October 25, 2021

The Christ baptism would exorcize Christendom nicely

I paid Facebook to publish in America yesterday's on baptizing children ...  Some comments, so far:

Bill
Baptisms of children are tantamount to cult tactics. This is a violation of the child’s right to determine her future free of ill founded “baptisms” which are brainwashings by the root of many evils, fundamentalist religions worshiping sky Gods and magical thinking. Let the child mature to make logical decisions based on a developed intellect, not Taliban like impositions by “elders” who are oftentimes misplaced.
 

Jamie
Nothing wrong with that comment. Sounds straightforward and honest.

Theresa
Catholic here - we baptize our children at or around 3 weeks old, why? Because we're ensuring that should anything happen that could cause the child's death, his/her soul will still go to heaven, they can chose later in their life if they don't want to be catholic

Me
Do you really think of my beautiful, innocent 7-week-old baby boy, who died of sudden infant death syndrome in 1967, that his soul did not return to God because we had not had him baptized? If so, I would love to be there when you cross over and see that explained to you by Jesus 😀

Jamie
In order to return to god, there has to be proof of a god in the first place. If you say Jesus is god, where is proof of that?

Theresa
I'm telling u how it was explained to me by my mother..

Me

Jamie, I do not say Jesus is God. God is God, all else flows from that, even the Devil. If you lived in my skin just one day, you would know for Eternity that God exists, and much more than that which science does not recognize but religions speak of but do not really know. 

Doris
Be real. We never know what’s really in the heart of an individual no matter the age. Do not refuse God for them. If they feel they have excepted the Lord then by all means let them be baptized. But not by u.

Me
For sure, it's up to each person to accept God, or not, regardless of what religion they belong or don't belong to, but what does that have to do with ministers and parents having children baptized whether the children want to be baptized or not? Whether the children know yet or not what the Baptism of Jesus Christ actually is, which is far different from what John the Baptist was doing.

Donald
Let them decide when they are of age don't force it on them it works better that way.

Me
Yes, but try to convince die-hard baptizers of that.

Gabriel
Brainwashed right away fuck that

Me
That's how cults operate. Their thinking and behavior is that of addicts, and they are addicts, but they don't see it that way. I told my friend that it will take something like Paul's experience on the road to Damascus, when he was Saul of Tarsus, and what happened to Saul after that, which turned him into Paul, to get her pastor's attention. I could have added, and it will take something like that to get her and the entire congregation's attention. 

Jamie
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Me
Children don't get to choose freedom from what their parents force onto them. By the time children are old enough to choose, are they so brainwashed they can't really choose? God is so much bigger than Christianity that it cannot be measured. Likewise, Jesus reported in the Gospels. 
 
Jamie
Belief isn't a choice. Belief is what you are convinced of and you can be convinced for good or bad reasons. Religious brainwashing is when you accept indoctrination as normal belief that can never be questioned.

Me
Yes, that is the way cults operate, blind devotion, adherence. Any belief has same effect, even though it is not derived from brainwashing. Although, there is so much brainwashing going on that it's not just in religion. 
I once believed God, Jesus, Angels, the Devil, Demon's existed, but I was not much into going to church. In my 45th year (I'm 79 now), I started having experiences that ended my belief and changed me to knowing all of that exists. And that is still unfolding today. Yet, there is no way I can prove any of it, but I have met and gotten to know a few people who have had similar experiences. We do not attend church, but we feel we always are in church. We see religion very differently from how we once viewed it. God is so much bigger than Christianity that it cannot be measured. Likewise, Jesus reported in the Gospels. We wish everyone got to experience what we experience. It would be a very different species, humanity. But that doesn't seem to be in the cards, and we engage what is put in front of us as we were trained and are directed and redirected by something a great deal bigger, smarter and wiser than us. 
God looks into people's hearts and minds, and observes what people do and don't do. It doesn't matter if a person is Christian, or Jew, or Muslim, or Buddhist, or New Age, or agnostic, or atheist. Jesus in the Gospels was God's messenger in that time, and even today. Had been other messengers, and there came later messengers. If Christianity got to experience the Christ baptism en masse, things would be very different. 

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