Friday, August 9, 2019

one hateful nation under guns

Found this love fest below on Facebook from someone who once worked for my father's business:
A gun is a tool, like any other tool, no better or no worse than the user; as good or as bad as the one using it.
  • Betty J. Roberts Hurst Amen!Hide or report this

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    Michael Williams
    Michael Williams That is right

  • Sloan Bashinsky Actually, a gun is a weapon, it has one intent, to kill, and it is really easy to get, and, so far, President Trump has done nothing about that since he has been president. His latest proposal, that all states pass "red flag" laws, is hot air, as he has no power to enforce that proposal, nor does the federal government. What he dodged, once again, is the U.S. Congress passing a federal red flag law, and sane, thorough background checks, which the NRA has long opposed. Looks to me that the Pledge of Allegiance should be changed from one nation, under God, to one nation under guns.

    • Roger Davidson A gun WILL NOT KILL anybody without a person in control. Just look how safe Chicago is with all their gun control! LOL

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    • Mike Warren Sloan Bashinsky guns don't kill people, people kill people
    • Sloan Bashinsky Kinda doubt that narrow argument is flying in God and Jesus’ Courtroom.
    • Jack Pruett How many other President's didn't do anything. At least this President has thrown out some ideas. FYI, Obama's years had 32 mass shooting and he did zilch.
    • Michael Williams Sloan Bashinsky you are entitled to your opinion. But in my opinion you’re full of shit
    • Roger Davidson Sloan Bashinsky What "narrow argument?" It's a fact GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE! If the Gun was at fault, they would sentence the "Gun" to life in prison and let the person who used the gun go free. Some people are so blind or just so hard-headed or just so brainwashed to see their hand in front of their face. Michael Williams just may have a good point!
    • Anne Campbell Never had this much hate..20 now in 4 fucking years
    • Anne Campbell Less than
    • Sloan Bashinsky Anne Campbell Thanks, hate seems to be king now.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Jack Pruett I suppose even an idiot knows guns don't aim and shoot themselves, and I wonder why that keeps being the NRA mantra, instead of the NRA and whatever president and political party are in charge hollering for and at the very least passing strict background checks for gun sales, and also stop the sales of military-style guns to civilians. Perhaps such a law won't, thanks to the black market, stop a single mass shooting, but it is at least an attempt, Trump, Obama, going back, were stymied by the NRA and its enormous vote-block. I'd love to see Trump tweet a storm, nay, a category 5 hurricane, at Congress for not passing such a law, and for ignoring what measures he so far has put forth.
    • Roger Davidson Sloan Bashinsky It seems that the second amendment gives us a right to have guns and the NRA helps protect that right. I really don't see why "military-type" guns have anything to do with it. I also don't have a problem with background checks. As I recall, Everytime I have purchased a gun, there is a background check and waiting period. Society has become too liberal and there are way too many lunatics running around. It there is a way to control them, it will help control mass shootings.
    • Larry Hathcock Liberals will never be satisfied. They think government and more laws is the answer to everything. How about enforcing laws already on the books. At the same time realize YOU CAN NOT GOVERN EVIL! YOU CAN PUNISH THE EVIL DOER.
    • Michael Williams Larry Hathcock that’s right Larry
    • Sloan Bashinsky Roger Davidson My recollection is military type guns were used in most of the mass shootings, but they have nothing to do with it.

      "Amendment 2: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

      The Founding Fathers connected the right to bear arms with a WELL REGULATED militia. In their wildest dreams, they did not imagine what goes on in America today.

      Definition militia: a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

      I am not aware of any well regulated militia where I live, other than law enforcement agencies.

      • Roger Davidson Sloan Bashinsky If you read what you wrote, you said "the right of the people to keep and bear arm!". That's pretty plain and simple. Are you saying that nothing bad happened bad in 1776? People have been fighting and killing other people and animals since the beginning of time. They probably didn't have a clue about cars, super markets, internet, airplanes interstates, railroads, TV's, and many other things. Does that make all of those interventions wrong. It doesn't matter if it's a rock, a knife, a pillar, a rope, or bare hands, bad people or crazy people can kill other people.
      • Sloan Bashinsky I read the 2nd Amendment in the order it is written, and in the context. You cherry-picked the part that you like, which tactic is done a lot in every contested thing I see online and by politicians and their followers. See same in religious disputes. In all disputes. Of course, probably every man and even some women back then had a gun, to hunt and defend themselves and survive That's not what the 2nd Amendment is about, which is a well regulated militia for national emergencies.
  • Larry Hathcock Sloan Bashinsky Any tool in the hands of a murderer becomes a weapon. A rock, fertilizer, a knife, and even the jawbone of an ass.
    A surgeon's tools can be used to heal but also to kill newborn babies.
    A weapon is any tool a killer uses to kill.
  • Michael Williams Guns don’t kill people people kill people.
  • Sloan Bashinsky Yeah, and it looks to me that you folks are totally okay with any lunatic or terrorist having the same easy access to mass shooting kinds of guns, as you have. Why not just put on U.S. currency, "in guns we trust".
  • Larry Hathcock Sloan Bashinsky
  • Sloan Bashinsky Cannot say the same for a lot of people I know, liberals and conservatives.

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