Monday, April 1, 2019

April Fool's Day festivities for white Americans

An old amiga I met many moons ago during the Hakomi body psychotherapy training in Boulder, Colorado, is still poking people softly. We were told Hakomi is an ancient Hopi word no longer in use, which means, "How do I stand in relation to all these many realms?"

  • Randy Heikens I think it's a little different when their Koran commands them to kill Christians and Jews. Also their purpose is to eventually enact Sharia law in the USA. Plainly their movement is an insurrection against the US constitution which guarantees freedom of religion for all.
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson I often find Christianity to be a threat to my way of life and beliefs. And so much violence in the religion. so many wars for so long ....
    • Randy Heikens Almost all acts of terror around the world are carried out by Islam. They even would kill Bernie Sanders since he is Jewish! Actually Christians are very peaceful. The wars of the last century were not religious wars.
    • Diane Daws Randy Heikens ! The Quran does not command them to kill Christians & Jews! Please google this because all that my husband found thru googling many different subjects proves that The Koran is about peace & Love & understanding!
    • Diane Daws Paula! I am so sorry that Christianity has left you feeling this way! I still consider myself a Christian but I do not belong to a church! To me, that can be the problem! My thoughts as a Christian is to love, to include, to help, to forgive, to ask for forgiveness, and to try to bring peace thru all the above! I am , by no means, great at any of this but because I believe that Jesus died for my sins, I can try to listen to what is in my heart & bring this out! I fail daily but I wake up believing that I can do this today.
    • Randy Heikens Koran 2:190-193 5:72-73 and many more. "peace and love"? You need to read it yourself! They have wiped out entire towns in Syria, Iraq, and African villages!
  • Sloan Bashinsky Not all Mulsims are radical right, just like not all Christians are radical right.

    Maybe this below is where the perhaps not entirely ignorant, nor entirely not ignorant, lady Muslim congresswoman got her head-covering should be practiced by women Christians idea? Imagine what she and other American women today would do to St. Paul if he were here today, saying this?

    1 Corinthians 11:2–16

    Head Coverings

    2 Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife1 is her husband,2 and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife3 who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. 7 For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 9 Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.4 11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; 12 for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God. 13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16 anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God.
    • Randy Heikens Consider the context, the people, the laws, and the times in which that was written. This was written to Greeks, under Roman law in times when this was the way things were done. These commands were not from the Old Testament. In a similar sense we might write and tell someone to obey the speed limits or other civil laws or traditions in order that people aren't offended over small things.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Sure looks to me Paul put women lower down the pecking order totem pole than men, regardless of what he thought about how long men's and women's hair should be. Then, there was Samson in the Old Testament, who lost his power when a woman cut off his hair. Maybe somebody will share with the Muslim lady congresswoman where she might have gotten her notion?
    • Randy Heikens Christianity puts women at high standing and certainly far above anything Islam has come up with. I don't get the following of the muslim woman in congress.

    • Sloan Bashinsky It has been my experience with Christians and in their churches, that St. Paul is quoted a lot more than is Jesus. American Christians say America is a Christian nation, founded on Christian beliefs. 8 of the 9 U.S. Supreme Court justices are men. Women make up 23 percent of the Senate and 25 percent of the House of Representatives. Yet, women comprise nearly 51 percent of the American population, Maybe except for Thomas Jefferson, all the "founding fathers" were Christians, and women are not mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, nor did they have the right to vote for a very long time in a "Christian" nation. I like this grande dame, who is Jewish.
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  • Paula Heikens-Mathewson hahahahahah. So there is always an out ... an explanation. A reason or time. It's all too silly and full of interpretation
    • Randy Heikens Yes there is always an explanation, because Christianity isn't about "law", it's about relationship with God. The Bible has to be understood correctly much like someone needing to understand their parents.
    • Sloan Bashinsky Hmmm, who is in charge of evaluating a person's relationship with God, or what is the correct understanding of the Bible? Can the number of wars fought over those two topics be counted even with a computer?
  • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Randy. I think you need to find some diversity. Are you still in Iowa? Mexican, I know, but any other nonwhite person you can make friends with?
    • Sloan Bashinsky Be nice, Paula , this is the day of the Lord. You didn't go to church this morning? But then, when are we ever not in church?
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson yup. That is the point. You know I am always nice ... ;)
    • Randy Heikens I am friendly with all, yes even Mexicans. Actually I like the Mexicans more than whites in some ways.
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson because they are just people ...
    • Randy Heikens Correct, as they are I am also.....
    • Sloan Bashinsky Heh, perhaps because most Mexicans have some to a lot of real American genes, as opposed to the British and West European variety?
    • Randy Heikens If you look at genetic mapping of the world, you will find the Mexicans are more closely related to us than, say, the oriental people or the African people. I mean the original Mexicans before the Spanish arrived.
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson Randy Heikens genetics would make them more relatable? (Sloan, what did you start??? )And maybe not use “oriental”. I think Asian is what you’re trying to say. Otherwise, I don’t think I can comment.
    • Sloan Bashinsky You dragged Mexicans into this, Paula. Randy, when I studied American history in grammar school, I was taught the original Mexicans before the Spanish arrived were indigenous people, such as Aztecs, Maya's, Apaches, etc., who had nothing to do with white people, nor even knew of white people, unless they dreamed of them, or their shamans did, or a messenger from the gods told them about white people, which perhaps did not happen, for surely such dreams or messenger would have told them to kill any white person who showed up, to prevent being destroyed by white people?
    • Randy Heikens Yes, but I mean the overall world genetics if you look at the charts they show us closer related to the Mexicans than to the orientals or Africans.
    • Paula Heikens-Mathewson there's that Orientals again, and not capitalized.

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