Tuesday, January 21, 2020

female Democratic ticket solution?

Yesterday's the devil in the White House post at this blog drew Facebook comments from a college fraternity brother and from the former wife or another college fraternity brother.
    • Jerry Reves

      Jerry Reves There have been others before him able to gather huge followings, in fact the list is too long to put here, but the world has suffered with them all. Evil is so alluring.
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky Indeed, Jerry, but I can't say I saw in pre-Trump America what Doris raises in her comment below. Ivana let it out during the 2016 race that Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches in a cabinet on his side of their bed and he sometimes read it. When asked about that, Trump said, if he did have such a book, he didn't read it.
    • Doris F Matthews
      Doris F Matthews As objectors, will we end up in concentration camps?
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky I think Trump and many of his followers would not mind that.

        Maybe they would give me a pass if I say I thought Hillary and Obama should have been locked up, too? And George W. Bush and his gang.
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky I saw NY Times article today re its editorial board endorsed both Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren for Democratic Party president nominee. Maybe Warren and Klobuchar should right now flip a coin to see which of them is president and which is vice president on the Dem ticket and announce that. I think America is decades past time needing a woman president. Perhaps that ticket would have the best chance against the testosterone-squared guy now in the White House?
      • Doris F Matthews
        Doris F Matthews Yeah. I heard that. I really like Klobuchar. I am just tired of all the chaos.
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky Doris F Matthews There is plenty of chaos, Trump seems to thrive on it, the Democrats seem pretty well splintered, even more than in 2016.
      • Doris F Matthews
        Doris F Matthews Government by tweet!!!! Government around lunch table at Maralago!!!! It will be interesting to see who the Dems choose. It will hard to fight world wide hacking.
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky Perhaps in keeping with Jerry’s and my knightly college fraternity creed, Dieu et les dames, this year will see a woman president, finally.
      • Doris F Matthews
        Doris F Matthews Dem debate should include question ---who tweets? If they do then....cross them off. 👹🤮🤲🤖.
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky Doris, it do look to me that President Tweet's existence revolves around proving to himself that his penis is the biggest and best penis of all. Wonder what happened when he was a kid to set him on that reason for being throughout his life?
      • Sloan Bashinsky
        Sloan Bashinsky Amy Kuchabar and Elizabeth Warren?
      • Sloan Bashinsky

        Sloan Bashinsky "Dark Horse" above, "Devil or Angel?" below
Walt Lagraves
Walt Lagraves  I challenge the notion one's sex has a damn thing to do with their ability to lead.
  • Sloan Bashinsky
    Sloan Bashinsky For challenging one's sex having anything to do with the ability to lead, perhaps, Walt, you have just guaranteed you will come back in your next life as a woman🤣.Or perhaps you wend up a slave in this goddess' palace?
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From the NY Times article:

American voters must choose between three sharply divergent visions of the future.
The incumbent president, Donald Trump, is clear about where he is guiding the Republican Party — white nativism at home and America First unilateralism abroad, brazen corruption, escalating culture wars, a judiciary stacked with ideologues and the veneration of a mythological past where the hierarchy in American society was defined and unchallenged.

On the Democratic side, an essential debate is underway between two visions that may define the future of the party and perhaps the nation. Some in the party view President Trump as an aberration and believe that a return to a more sensible America is possible. Then there are those who believe that President Trump was the product of political and economic systems so rotten that they must be replaced..]
The Democratic primary contest is often portrayed as a tussle between moderates and progressives. To some extent that’s true. But when we spent significant time with the leading candidates, the similarity of their platforms on fundamental issues became striking.

Nearly any of them would be the most progressive president in decades on issues like health care, the economy and government’s allocations of resources. Where they differ most significantly is not the what but the how, in whether they believe the country’s institutions and norms are up to the challenge of the moment.

Many Democratic voters are concerned first and foremost about who can beat Mr. Trump. But with a crowded field and with traditional polling in tatters, that calculation calls for a hefty dose of humility about anyone’s ability to foretell what voters want.

Choosing who should face off against Mr. Trump also means acknowledging that Americans are being confronted with three models for how to govern this country, not two. Democrats must decide which of their two models would be most compelling for the American people and best suited for repairing the Republic.
The party’s large and raucous field has made having that clean debate more difficult. With all the focus on personal characteristics — age and race and experience — and a handful of the most contentious issues, voters haven’t benefited from a clarifying choice about the party’s message in the election and the approach to governing beyond it.
It was a privilege for us on the editorial board to spend more than a dozen hours talking to candidates, asking them any question that came to mind. Yet that exercise is impossible for most Americans, and we were left wanting for a more focused conversation for the public. Now is the time to narrow the race.

The history of the editorial board would suggest that we would side squarely with the candidate with a more traditional approach to pushing the nation forward, within the realities of a constitutional framework and a multiparty country. But the events of the past few years have shaken the confidence of even the most committed institutionalists. We are not veering away from the values we espouse, but we are rattled by the weakness of the institutions that we trusted to undergird those values.

There are legitimate questions about whether our democratic system is fundamentally broken. Our elections are getting less free and fair, Congress and the courts are increasingly partisan, foreign nations are flooding society with misinformation, a deluge of money flows through our politics. And the economic mobility that made the American dream possible is vanishing.

Both the radical and the realist models warrant serious consideration. If there were ever a time to be open to new ideas, it is now. If there were ever a time to seek stability, now is it.
That’s why we’re endorsing the most effective advocates for each approach. They are Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.

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