Sunday, March 25, 2018

Key West dispensable church Sunday homily: Does Christianity worship Paul instead of Jesus? Is Donald Trump a reincarnation of Saul of Tarsus? Is working for God work if you don't get paid? Matthew 13:17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

depiction of Saul of Tarsus being knocked off his horse and blinded by Jesus from the spirit on the road to Damascus

The first part of today's Sunday homily is excerpts from mostly previously-published Facebook discussion started by XXXXX about Paul, whose several letters to his congregations are in the New Testament. The first part of this homily is mostly what anyone can glean from the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles, Peter's writings and Paul's writings, who wants to glean it. XXXXX brought Donald Trump into the discussion, and I pounced on that because Trump sort of reminds Saul of Tarsus before he became Paul. The second part of this homily is private Facebook chat with XXXXX, which reflects the kind of I did quite a bit of for no pay, basically, starting in 1988 and stretching through 1999. A mainland amiga's and my dreams pointed me toward the material in today's post.


Part I

XXXXX (to a lady Trump fan, who had quoted Paul and the Old Testament, If you don't work, you don't eat, and who had called Bernie Sanders a communist)

Why are you quoting Paul and Proverbs on people having to work for pay? Paul did not work a 9 to 5 job. He preached and others fed and housed him. He may have washed dishes or done some other chores to pay his way. So, if we preach the gospel and kingdom and follow the true Jesus it does not matter if we are broke or homeless and couch surfing. God will feed and shelter and clothe us.

Paul seemed to go out of his way to justify doing things Jesus said NOT to like eating meat from pagan idols. Jesus never got meat from an idol or said to do it. In fact he said three times not to do so. Three times Paul defended it.Trump exploits the poor and abuses women including his wife. He hates foreigners as opposed to welcoming them like the Bible says to do. He glorifies & boasts of HIMSELF nonstop. I’ve never heard him say a humble word or speak of Jesus or the poor - whom Jesus loved and spoke often about. He loves money and his own ego, which is exactly the opposite of Jesus.

Trump is glorifying himself as usual with his absurd parade. This is what dictators do. Not USA presidents... Meanwhile he lets the poor starve & go homeless & without medical care, which could be helped with the millions he’s wasting on parades and playing golf. I hope the veterans with PTSD living on the street enjoy his parade. Our military is evil. It steals the wealth of the world and we enslave the poor with economic weapons. The rich people richer. War is a racket and USA is a criminal cartel.

Sloan
I mentioned Saul of Tarsus, who became Paul, because Saul was a violent, self-righteous Jew, who believed he knew what was right. He hated and was hunting down and having Christians killed. He was apprehended by Jesus from the spirit and then began his becoming a different man, whose transformation, in my opinion, was remarkable, but not complete, for his letters showed what I think was the part of his transformation that was incomplete. He put men above women in relationship to Christ. He did not get it that men and women both were made in God's image, equal but different. The Holy Ghost (Spirit) in the Christian Trinity is viewed as male in Christendom, but actually is the female side of God. Jesus was balanced. Infused with the Father and the Holy Ghost. '

Donald Trump kinda reminds me of Saul of Tarsus. Driven by testosterone. He sorely needs an infusion of the Holy Ghost, which will balance him out. I think he is truly gifted, but to reach his potential, he needs to be balanced out. Perhaps he will be so infused and become a new man. Who can say? I think if that happens, it will confound everyone who thinks he hung the moon. It will confound the Republicans who hang with him because he is their party's president. It will confound most Democrats. It will confound most other Americans. And it will confound the world.

My recollection from Paul's writings was he told his congregation that he did not ask them for money, he made tents for money. However, much of his ministry was from a Roman jail, where he was cared for by the jail. He was a Roman citizen, and that is what got him to Rome, where he had been told in a dream or vision, I suppose, he was supposed to go. He was allowed to go there, because as a Roman citizen he had a right to appeal his case to Caesar. All Christians were being killed, who did not renounce Jesus. I have read that eventually Paul was beheaded, because he would not renounce Jesus. Beheading was how Rome executed Roman citizens.

My experience has been that most Christians quote Paul much quicker than they quote Jesus. Maybe they find Paul easier to swallow than Jesus. Yet Paul never knew the man Jesus, never walked and talked with him on this world. Imagine an America after every person living here was infused with the Holy Ghost. Imagine this world after every person on it was infused by the Holy Ghost. I can't imagine there would be any wars, for starters. Nor crime. Nor drug addiction. Nor a lot of things that drive people today. I can imagine society would function much like what I quoted from

Acts.5 NIV
32. All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

XXXXX
we need to ask whether Paul really saw Jesus, IMO. ALL WE HAVE IS HIS WORD and the being of light he saw claiming to be Jesus. But Paul himself said that Satan can come as an angel of light. Jesus said do not believe a spirit coming to you in the wilderness or in a private room claiming to be Him. Paul has witnessed for himself. His ratings are full of hate like saying “all Cretans are liars,” an infamous quote slandering a whole country as dishonest. The fact that the real apostles didn’t call him out does not confirm he ever saw Jesus. Jesus said not to pull out the tares but to wait until the harvest. In Acts Paul quotes the spirit saying he is to be a witness not apostle.

People read a lot into the Bible that isn’t there. We do not know how much of Paul’s income was from tents at any given time just because he at one point mentions that. Also we have to ask would Jesus blind someone or Satan? In the Old Testament the angels (messengers) staying with Lot blind the mob of people outside trying to rape them. They did not blind them to help them or call them into repentance and service. So what precedent is here for Jesus blinding someone? I think people need to have more faith in Jesus and the apostles and less in Paul. He has hijacked Christianity and is quoted much more in the Church usually. Nobody but Paul saw the light and heard the voice. And he gives conflicting accounts of what happened. He waited like 17 years before even beginning his ministry if you read between the lines. And this alleged spirit of Jesus told him to avoid the apostles at one point and not go where they were. He said that they “imparted nothing” to him.

Sloan
2nd Peter15 Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing...

Sloan
1st Corinthians 1 [Paul] Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love I am only a resounding gong or clanging symbol. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have faith, that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I give all I possess to the poor, and surrender my body to the flames, [4] but have not love,I gain nothing. 4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, darkly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

That doesn't sound to me like it came from the Devil. Paul wrote that it was Jesus who accosted him and asked why he (Paul) persecuted him? There had to be a time of adjustment, training, change. Paul spent time in jail before he was sent to Rome to speak with Caesar. Were his letters all written from Rome? I'm not educated about that.

XXX
Some of Paul's writing resonates with Jesus’s words. Some of it doesn’t. He knew Christian doctrines from the people he persecuted and killed before most likely. He could’ve been deceived when he said things that aren’t based on that rock foundation. The Bible warns of a Benjamite Wolf. Paul said he was the tribe of Benjamin. Jesus talked about wolves in sheep’s clothing. Paul didn’t know Jesus in the flesh, as you said, so Paul would not know the things Jesus might have said that exposed him and showed he was in error.

People misunderstand a lot of things. Like the law. Jesus did not say that the law will last forever. He said the law will not pass away until heaven and Earth pass away and his words will never pass away. Will heaven and earth pass away? When a new heaven and earth come, what would happen to the old one?

Also some of the letters Paul wrote are disputed and may have been forgeries written by others. Same goes for many passages of scripture like the verses talking about handling deadly snakes and drinking poison. They aren’t in he oldest manuscripts and may have been added by an unscrupulous scribe or mole trying to sabotage the faith. I don’t believe those verses are of God. Jesus did not throw himself off the temple or handle deadly snakes or drink poison. By his example and words we have reason to doubt those verses. 

I see it as putting God to the test to eat poison or handle rattlesnakes and king cobras and so forth. Not to say that someone will not survive accidentally being bitten by a snake or taking in poison. Fear is a big factor of many things. Voodoo, curses and magic “works” because people fear it and believe it so it has psychosomatic FX. People can feel drunk from a non-alcoholic drink if they’re led to believe it is alcoholic or have allergic reactions if they think they ate an allergen. A lot of disease and symptoms are in the mind, but there is also some reality to things. If you eat Tide Pods or bleach or wood alcohol or lye you’re probably going to die or get horribly ill and wish you did.

Sloan
I told you in a PM that I would be watching for what I might receive in dreams tonight about Paul. If I receive nothing, that means I described him good enough. 

You are a deep thinker and student of the Bible. I wonder if you receive direct instruction from the Spirit? If so, I wonder if the Spirit has told you about Paul? I have known Christians who were certain that, after the Bible came into being, that God quit talking directly to people. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Sloan 
John 10:16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Sloan 
Matthew 13:10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” 10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

Sloan 
So, what did Jesus teach the disciples in secret, which never was reported in the Gospels, or by any of this disciples in their writings?

Sloan  
And, Matthew 13:17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.

So what did the disciples see and hear, but did not see and hear, and is any of that reported in the Gospels or their writings? If so, where?

Looks to me by Jesus own words in the Gospels, the disciples had poor eyes and ears when they were with him, and so did their eyes and ears improve later, say after Pentecost? Seems in Acts that Peter's eyes and ears improved. But to what extent relative to what Jesus had taught when he was with Peter in the flesh. Will we ever know? Just how? Incomplete? The New Testament? Is? Not by studying it. But perhaps by being told it by the Spirit. If the Spirit is so inclined. I had no dreams about Paul.

Part II

private Facebook chat

Sloan
What follows is long, I decided to share it with you by PM, for now. 

I myself was told in a written transmission through a Christian intercessor, who did not want to give it to me, she said, but was shown something to convince her to give it to me, she said, that I should read Acts and Corinthians over and over. This was shortly before I would come out of a spirit-induced black night of the soul that maybe only someone like John of the Cross would have correctly diagnosed, for even though I had read plenty about that cloistered Carmelite Order monk, I did not grok what that 16-month ordeal was until I was coming out of it and was told what it was by something not of this world, and that I was not told during it because it was feared I would kill myself.

My own unexpected changes began with a desperate prayer when I was at the end of my rope, out of bright ideas, and I knew it, in early January 1987, for God to help me, I didn't want to die, failed, I offered my life to human service. A few nights later, I woke up in the wee hours and saw two what I assumed were angels hovering above me in the darkness. No wings visible, White with blue tint, etheric form. Nothing like I had ever seen personally. I heard, "This will push you to your limits but you asked for it (I remembered the prayer I had made) and we are going to give it to you," and then I was jolted three times by something electrical; I saw white flashes with each jolt. My body lurched with each jolt. I thought it was spiritual lightning, even though I had never heard of spiritual lightning up to that point in my 44-plus years. The two beings faded out. I lay there, shaking. I realized my girlfriend beside me was awake. She was a closet mystic. I asked if she was awake? Yes. What's going on, she asked? I asked what she had seen? Your body jumping. Did you see or hear the angels? No. I told her what you just read. She laughed, said, let's go back to sleep you strange man. 

Quite a few years later, I was told that the 2 beings were Jesus and Archangel Michael. About then, Melchizedek joined them. Up to then the training had been both beautiful and rough, with the black night by far the roughest. I prayed to die and hoped I would and feared I would not. I was suicidal every day. Something stopped me from killing myself. Then, the training began in earnest. I was told to read the Letter to the Hebrews, which is about the Melchizedek priesthood training, with a brief summary of it and the peril of turning away once it begins. It was written to Jewish initiates who had been brought into it, but were turning away because it was so rough. Many think Paul wrote Hebrews, but theologians tend to think it is not Paul's writing style and someone else wrote it. I was told Mary Magdalene scribed it, anonymously, because it was known back then that no man would read it, if a woman had scribed it. 

You are correct. It is very tricky discerning spirits. In fact, in the written transmission the intercessor received and reluctantly gave to me, it said I had all gifts of the spirit but discernment of spirits. That shortfall became a piece of the Melchizedek training, which was awful and still ain't much fun. Many times I got snookered by something and had to be corrected and put back together by something else, which, because of how it went about it, convinced me it was more concerned about God's will than my stupidity and my fragile ego. I caught a great deal of grief for being open about all of that, talking about it, writing about it, publishing it on my website. I was called crazy. Need to be on meds. Locked up. 

I moved from belief that God exists, and that the Devil exists, to knowing both exist. Same with angels and demonic spirits. I moved from trying to work and be in religion and attend churches, to feeling that I was always in church. Even when I was asleep. For my dreams were both full of advice and corrections. Still are. I moved from wanting to be of human service to looking forward to leaving this life. Yet here I am, still. 

Have known only a few people who believed what I shared above, which I experienced and never will be able to prove it. Some of those people were dragged into something similar themselves to some or greater degree. 

I sometimes say the angels took the worst piece of shit they could find, me, as an experiment, to see if they could do something with me, and if they could, then that would show they could do the same for people not as screwed up as I was. 


Because of all of that, I know what Paul described happened to him, could have happened. However, perhaps the angels will speak to me about what you wrote of your doubts about Paul's veracity, or his simply not knowing what actually was leading him. 

Also because of what I have experienced, I know the angels could apprehend Donald Trump and turn him upside down and inside out, and change him. To anyone, they could do that. If it was theirs to do. Because it seems to me they receive their own orders, which they then follow. 

They told one of my friends they had grabbed, that they, too, were fallen angels, who had been taken back, and because they had fallen, they were better able to try to help human beings on this planet. That's what my friend said he heard. It made sense to me. He reported hearing other radical things, which made sense to me. 

He was really put through the wringer by those angels. He was Jewish, but non practicing. Had been deep into the New Age and Eastern spiritual practices and organic food and pure water - before he was apprehended. He did not believe there was a such a thing as Lucifer/Evil. He got cured of that. He believed Jesus and Michael were training him. As did a woman I was put with. She reported Melchizedek was with them. They changed her about 3 months. She had been a New Age healer, of sorts. Had been raised in a family that did not practice any religion. 

XXXXX
I had a lot of weird experiences like that. Feeling like I was being electrocuted. Every muscle was cramping. I went several weeks not using soap or a shower & my body started smelling like strong soap and felt soapy like old soap was coming out my pores. After that my mind was totally clear & silent. I had to think deliberately and relearn how to think almost. There was clearly a major radical change. Before I only felt mental peace for a few moments here & there. Now it was constant.

I felt demonic influences at times too like hearing weird voices on the phone talking to people. My friend called and I was reading a George Carlin book & it seemed like the friend said his name was Jeff Carlin. At a doctor’s office the television stuttered when a character introduced himself as Ian and said my name twice. 

One time I thought I was having sex with a succubus awake in bed.

I think the medication opens you up to demonic influences.

Sloan
Those things you describe could just as easily be angels sending you veiled messages. How did you know it was a female demon (succubus)? I ask, because whenever I dream of a woman coming onto me sexually, it means either I have serious spirit work with her or with what she represents that is going on in my life, or soon will. Given what you described in your first paragraph above, it won't surprise me if that was stage one for you, and stage 2 might follow. And then stage 3. And 4. And so on.

XXXXX
It felt like a woman was on top of me. I thought that people would motive the odd soapy smell and kill me like the book and movie Perfume. This was before I had seen the movie, but when I saw it later it reminded me of that as I felt the same, like I would either be worshipped as a messiah or torn apart because I didn’t have any body odor after not washing.

Sloan 
What kind of medication? Narcotics (restricted meds) and any street drug and booze suppress the internal feminine and open people to demonic influence, infection, or worse, more so if there is regular use. The meds psychiatrists prescribe might regulate brain chemicals, but they suppress ability to hear from Spirit. Spirit, of course, can get through any interference, if Spirit wishes. 

That was proven to me in an amusing way in early 1999, when I was being tortured by something I could not grok, physical torture. A pentecostal Christian I had not long known, who did hear from Spirit, he said, despite being treated by 3 different psychiatrist and using pills they gave him, called me one morning to say, during his morning prayer time, God told him to tell Sloan to read the Letter to the Hebrews. I had never read it, and read it right away, and understood that I was going into the Melchizedek priest initiation. When I later talked with the fellow and told him that, he seemed a bit struggling to take it in.

XXXXX 😊
I smelled good and it was not like any soap or cologne that I’d ever used or smelled before.

Sloan
Yes, you had been cleansed, it would seem - spiritually cleansed. Such stories are no problem for me to accept, given all I have experienced, which would take a very large book to report just the parts I remember.

XXXXX
When I was around other people they seemed to act different too. At first I thought someone might be drugging my food because it all tasted different.

Psych meds.

Sloan
Interesting. 

What happens to me is I absorb into me the spirit shit in other people and situations I have been given to engage. As if I'm a spirit shit sewer collection and processing system. It passes through my G.I. tract, makes me feel terrible, until I finish what I'm to do with it, then it leaves me and goes down the human sewer. I also feel it in my head and cerebral spinal fluid and liver and. And sometimes in my spine. And sometimes in my respiratory tract. And often I get boils on my skin and ulcers in my mouth, which pass after I do whatever is mine to do.

I have to be very careful to stay within my training and spirit guidance, or try to do that, and when I screw up, I am corrected, and when I screw up really bad, so far, the angels have rescued me, some rescues were quick, some took a good while, one took 2 years. The more Spirit works with people, the more interest in them Lucifer becomes. Psychiatry has no empathy for or understanding of supernatural influences, which is unfortunate.

XXXXX
Maybe I saw the movie Perfume before it happened. Not sure it’s been eight years now.

Sloan
Don't recall seeing that film.

XXXXX
Very unique movie and book about a murderer with no scent but an extremely sensitive nose who makes a perfume from the young girls.Virgins.I was thinking lots of weird things like we would not smell bad if we were totally pure, honest & good.

It was like a supernatural soap and cologne coming out of me.I can’t figure out how to do it again.

Sloan
Sometimes I have smelled sulfur in a dream, to make darn sure I know what I'm dealing with that the dream pointrf me toward. When I smell cigarette smoke in a dream, that tells me the person producing the cigarette smoke in the dream is doing evil in "real life". 

Have not had your kind of smell experiences. There is nothing to figure out how to do. That was given to you by Spirit. That's the trouble with not my, but thy will be done, O Lord. We ain't in charge of anything but how we respond to what happens.

And even then, we might not be in charge, depending on how our subconscious and computer programming and earlier brainwashing and ego are inclined to respond. If in fact the human mind is only aware of 5 to 10 percent of what the rest of a person is up to (subconscious, soul, soul wounding, emotional wounding, programming, spirit influences), then the human mind is only a small bit player.

XXXXX
There may be natural causes for it. The body can make soap from eating oils, fruit and other things. Or just drink some soapy water. I don’t know what to make if it and didn’t ask anyone else if they could smell it. So it may have been drug induced hallucination.SloanI don't think so, given what you have written about it. Were you on psych meds? If so, which ones?

Maybe it was some kind of a detox from getting off the media.I didn’t take them for long. I went on and off several. Zyprexa and lithium, geodom, risperidol were the main ones.Celexa too. That made me psychotic. Like thinking the radio was talking to me and I had to become a fireman and save lots of lives to make up for my sins.

Sloan
I was on Zyprexa and, for a change of scenery, Risperidol for a short while, during that 16 month black night. Those meds made the black night much worse. The side effects were terrible. It took months to get the chemical residues all out of my body cells. I had to go on a diet with no friend food, purified water, no booze. It took longer for my mind to start functioning like it had before, even as the spirit phenomenon increased, especially awareness of an impact from dark and black energies. 

My shrink was leagues out of his depth, but during that time he was an ally and he helped me in other ways. But finally, I had to leave him, and that was interesting because of a friend's dream about me having to leave him and psychiatry, which had nearly killed me.

Are you taking any meds now? If so, which ones?

XXXXX
No.

Sloan
From what you wrote recently about sex and the Bible, I think there is soul healing in that area that will benefit you, if the Spirit wants you to have it. I think Spirit will have to work directly inside of you, consciously and unconsciously. You might be made aware of some of it. You might need help from me understanding coping with the healing, which will not be of this world and no psychiatrist I have known would be of much help, and might get in the way, or worse. Likewise, all but maybe one minister I met briefly, when I was early in the Melchizedek training. 

Let me know if weird stuff starts happening inside of you. This is part of my job. I am not allowed to ask for payment.

Sloan
I can imagine that the woman on top of you was your internal feminine trying to reconnect with you and initiate changes in you. I think the soap smell might have been your inner female or an angel thanking you for getting off the meds.
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