Thursday, December 14, 2017

Do you wonder if Roy Moore and his backers will ever wonder if what happened in Alabama was God's will?

The Alabama US Senate race Facebook thread included in yesterday's post at this website grew a few more legs:
Elizabeth Rene Campbell Sad that it was this close.
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Jay Clements But it’s sad that the race was as close as it was
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Sheri Pogue Great read Sloan!
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Sloan Bashinsky Not sure it's over, given Moore refusal to concede
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Sloan Bashinsky So much for not my but God's will be done?
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Sheri Pogue AL Sec of State refused the recall of election now if Moore wants it he has to pay for it.
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Sloan Bashinsky According to recent news articles, Alabama law requires recount if .5 percent or less difference in votes. Otherwise, losing candidate asking for recount must pay for it. In this case, difference is about 1.5 percent.

For me, Moore represents the lowest, least tuned in element of Christianity, which, given how many votes he got, says he has lots of company in Alabama.
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Sloan Bashinsky But then, maybe the Inquisition days will return, and then we will see what that part of Christianity really sought.
Pasquale DeMaio Sadly, the black people of Alabama have spoken. It’s unfathomable to me that Moore easily won the white vote. 🤦‍♀️
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Sheri Pogue because....Alabama
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Sloan Bashinsky It was the women and the black people of Alabama, who spoke. A much greater percentage of white women voted for Doug Jones than had voted for Hillary Clinton. But, even so, Roy Moore got far more white women than did Doug Jones. I do not, however, understand why it is unfathomable to you that Moore easily won the white vote. Alabama bills itself as "the heart of Dixie". Montgomery was the capitol of the Confederacy, after it was moved from Virginia. Roy Moore's supporters are a latter day incarnation of George Wallace's supporters. No surprise, unless you are not familiar with American history. No surprise, either, that President Trump ended up endorsing and stumping for Moore. Trump will do anything to win. Anything. As will most Republicans in Congress. We all should thank Alabama's senior US Senator, Richard Shelby, a Republican, for announcing he could not vote for Moore, because he believed he was guilty as charged by the women, and he had written in a prominent Alabama Republican. If this Alabama ex pat living in Key West had to hazard a wild ass guess, I would say Shelby is what tipped the close race to Doug Jones. What is unfathomable to me is that any woman would vote for Jones. Or any black. Ditto, for any woman or black voting for Trump. It will be interesting to see what kind of candidate the Republicans field when Jones' Senate seat comes up for grabs again.
Pasquale DeMaio Sloan Bashinsky it wasn’t the women and black people of Alabama. Sadly the white women (and men) voted Moore resoundingly. Luckily the black women (and men) voted Jones even more resoundingly. Essentially Jones got out the democrat vote and enough of a Republican minority to barely win.
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Sloan Bashinsky More women voted this time against the Republican agenda, than voted against the Republican agenda in the US president race this year. A higher percentage of white women voted this time for the Democrat candidate, than voted last year for Hillary Clinton. What looks to me tip the scales, however, was Alabama senior US Senate Republican Richard Shelby coming out against Moore. There were nearly 23,000 write-in votes. I doubt those were cast by people who wanted Doug Jones to win.
Michael Olanoff The king of the morons has misplaced his crown. Watch the Republican party feast upon him...bring popcorn!
Next today is a mostly fundamentalistic Christian, pro-Moore, pro-Republican Facebook thread started yesterday by someone who revealed during the conversation that he had met and gotten to know Roy Moore, and believed Moore's claims that he was falsely accused by a number of Alabama women. Although this Facebook conversation is long, it provides provides a good perspective of how tens of millions of American Christians think. Below that is a bit more about Jesus' baptism, which I would loved to see imposed on Roy Moore and all of Christendom and all of humanity.



Bob Cleveland

Congratulations, all you "write-in Republicans". You appear to have elected Doug Jones.
Amy Sollick Davis I just commented the same thing...
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David Worley So, now, we've got another pro abortion, big govt, higher taxes, liberal in the Senate. Oh goody. 🙄
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Tim Guthrie Bob, you have highlighted and rightly so the big issue! Why some cannot see this is beyond me!
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David Worley The unborn lost tonight.
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Scott Gordon NO! No they didn’t!!! Roy Moore lost the privilege to receive their votes. No party supersedes the right of people to vote their conscience. I am so tired of the blame-shifting, guilt-tripping castigation which goes on when unworthy candidates don’t get elected.
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David Worley an unworthy candidate got elected.
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Bob Cleveland Deny it all you want, Scott, But they did.
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Scott Gordon David Worley Apparently, then, more worthy candidates should have run.
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R Dean Pesnell You're correct Bob. That's exactly what happened.
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Bob Cleveland Scott .. perhaps .. but that is completely irrelevant to this topic.
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Scott Gordon Bob Cleveland No they didn’t. They did not cast their vote in favor of the one who ultimately won. The fault is not with the voters. It is with the horrific candidate (which should be candidates...the binary system is an unnecessary presumption we make) which ran against the presumptive winner.
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Larry Davis I give up. How did Roy Moore lose the privilege to receive our votes?
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David Worley Larry Davis I know. I thought people were innocent until proven guilty?
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Paul Littleton David Worley I must say you are one of the very few people I've ever been acquainted with who believes OJ did not kill Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman.
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David Worley Paul Littleton I do believe he did it based on the TRIAL he went thru. We heard the facts on OJ. I don’t think Roy Moore had atrial; did he? He’s just been convicted by the court of accusations and liberal news media. But hey, one good thing, we’ve got a pro abortion, anti religious freedom, pro gay agenda liberal in the Senate. Does that make you happy?

David Worley BTW, Paul, I am no fan of Roy Moore.
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David Worley Paul Littleton if some women accused you of sexual misconduct, would you want us to believe them? From mere accusations? I mean, we all know that a woman would never accuse a man of something he didn’t do just to get back at a man, or to get money, or to get attention, or for political gain.
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Paul Littleton David Worley The full text of the quote you gave is "innocent until proven guilty *in a court of law *." OJ was proven *not guilty* in a court of law. You're saying that you have a right to form your own conclusions outside of the determination of the court. Others are saying they have that same right in the case of Roy Moore.

Also, Moore has had a full opportunity to present his case to the public as well. The "court of public opinion" has not been restricted to his accusers. It may very well be that people are weighting all of the known facts in forming their conclusions - INCLUDING the facts as Roy Moore has presented them.

Finding Moore to likely be guilty of the accusations outside of court proceedings isn't different than you finding OJ guilty *in spite of* an official court proclamation.

My bet is even if a court found Roy Moore guilty people would do for him what you've done for OJ - and they would still claim he's innocent. So, innocent until proven guilty - if I agree, huh?

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Paul Littleton David Worley people's conclusions have not been simply based on the accusations. They've listened to both sides and have drawn conclusions based on all that's been presented. Example: the fact that he's told lies in response to the accusations doesn't speak well of his claims.
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David Worley Paul Littleton I am no fan of Roy Moore.
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David Worley I am even less of a fan of a man, who believes killing babies is okay.
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Paul Littleton I'm not a fan of people who would harm a baby in the womb nor of one who would harm or abuse a person outside of the womb. Fortunately our choices are never limited by those two options.
Jeff Hairrell Thank God. Jesus had spoken
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Larry Davis So I assume that when Jesus said "Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come to me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." that it's OK with you for them to go to him as fetuses? And do you really think that Jesus had anything to do with this election?
Bob Cleveland Voters don't seem to realize their job is to vote for the one they believe will do the best job in office. It's simply NOT to express their moral convictions or religious beliefs. I will simply NEVER vote for a pro-choice candidate as that person will cooperate in leading the nation where it should not go.
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Howard Abrams Moore spent entirely too much time running against Mitch McConnell when he should have been running against Doug Jones. He not only alienated party leaders, his campaign turned off a lot of republucans who either wrote in or stayed home. Judge Moore, even with all the accusations emerging it was yours to win and you blew it.
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Mike Raney Is it my imagination, or did he seem to disappear this weekend while Jones was constantly in our faces?
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Howard Abrams That was my impression as well.
Bob Cleveland Simple fact: what's played out over the last month on the liberal democrat side could have been scripted in an afternoon by "West Wing" writers, and cast in a day by any good talent agent.
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Christy Blackwell Just saw a headline that read Nick Saban came in 3rd, with almost 20, 000 votes. 😐
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Mike Raney The good news is that we get to vote Jones out in 2 years.
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Dave Miller Personally, I am proud of people who stood up and said no to a man of such low moral character as Roy Moore. At some point, if we want to say we are values voters, we have to vote values.
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David Worley A lot of the TGC crowd and Russ Moore really came down on the morals of Roy Moore. Then, why are they having a conference to honor a man, who was a proven adulterer?
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Tim Guthrie Scott Gordon but he took a position on multiple occasions. More than a vote!
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Tim Guthrie David Worley true and the silence is telling!
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David Worley Is not a real double standard and hypocrisy to come down hard on Trump and Roy Moore, and then have a whole conference celebrating a man, who cheated on his wife multiple times?
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Scott Gordon Jennifer Yates Pickering I have not said that I think Jones is a better moral choice. Neither candidate was worthy...and I will not acquiesce to the false dichotomy that I MUST choose one. If neither are candidates I can support, then I cannot vote for either. I will either vote third party, write-in, or not for that particular office at election time.
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Tim Guthrie Scott Gordon play that path out in the coming years, if no change is seen. It is a path that removes the voice of Christians from the process. Think that out with the status quo staying. It will not lead to any change.
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David Worley TGC and Russ Moore are eerily silent on King, while lambasting anyone, who voted for Trump or Roy Moore.
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David Worley Dave MillerScott Gordon? Can you explain this to me?
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Jennifer Yates Pickering Scott Gordon, I was replying to Dave Miller, who said “Personally, I am proud of people who stood up and said no to a man of such low moral character as Roy Moore. At some point, if we want to say we are values voters, we have to vote values.” I agree that neither were worthy candidates. Which is why I then had to vote for the party that most aligns with my beliefs, and for me that is Republican. I want to keep the Republican majority in the Senate, and even more important, the Supreme Court Justices that will be put into place over the next few years. So for me, not voting or voting a write in, hurt our cause.
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William Dwight McKissic Sr. David Worley Don’t condone adultery. Although tempted, By God’s Grace, never committed adultery. 
David, Moore is accused of inappropriate sexual contact with a 14 yr old-a crime. 
MLK is accused of being an adulterer-a sin, but not a crime. The SBC honors W A Criswell, who was an open racist & unrepentantly taught Blacks were inherently assigned by God to servitude. If the SBC can honor him, & all the other racists & slave masters that buildings, hymn books, & even Broadman Press is named after....based on precedent we can honor MLK. IF u all raise enough stink & cause the ERLC to stand down on the King celebration, u will destroy any future efforts to integrate the SBC, & lose the lion share of currently affiliated Black SBC churches. Is that what u want? I know u well enough to know the answer is, No. So please cease this line of query, my brother from another mother.
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Bob Cleveland Consider where you got all your information about Judge Moore. The most logical conclusion I can come to is that the last month has been a carefully scripted and unfortunately effective work of fiction. And my personal experience in having met the man is that he is innocent. Which he is, under our entire justice system.
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David Worley William Dwight McKissic Sr. So, it's okay to lambast people, who voted for Trump or Roy Moore, who was not convicted of anything, But, it's okay to celebrate a man, who committed adultery numerous times, who cheated on his wife multiple times?
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David Worley Dwight, you're correct that I truly want racial harmony and love between Brothers and Sisters in Christ, who are different colors, in our SBC. I most certainly do. And, I'm just a sinner saved by grace. I'm the least of God's servants. I know that. But...See More
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William Dwight McKissic Sr. Bob & David, I simply don’t believe 9 ladies are lying. I respect ur right to believe differently. Moore’s comments ‘bout slavery in the context of America’s greatness, & him wanting to abolish all amendments after the 10th amendment...are atrocious, a  it just comes across very hypocritical and unfair to call fellow Christians "sold out," and "hurting the Gospel," and "killing our witness," and "causing Christians to not be taken seriously;" while celebrating a man, who lived in sin, and did not repent of it.....not that we know. He cheated on his wife over and over again. So, why is it okay for Russ Moore and the TGC crowd to celebrate King?
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David Worley William Dwight McKissic Sr. I'm not Roy Moore supporter. I wish the people of Alabama would've picked a better candidate to run against the pro abortion, anti religious freedom, pro gay agenda liberal. But, they didn't.
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David Worley And, I can assure you that I would be against having a conference celebrating Roy Moore.
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David Worley Dwight, I just want to be clear about something. By bringing up Russ Moore and TGC celebration of Martin Luther King, I'm just pointing out the bizarre hypocrisy of blasting Christians for voting for Trump and Roy Moore, while celebrating a man, who continually cheated on his wife. That's the only point I was trying to make.
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William Dwight McKissic Sr. Point made & accepted. Reality though: Only King’s message of freedom, equality, justice, brotherhood & Love is being celebrated, & his success in making his message universal, impactful & functional in America policy & psyche. Nothing more, or nothing  less is being celebrated. To raise personal sin issues seems unfair, unless u are going to raise the personal sins of the rest of us who preach each week with sins & flaws.
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David Worley William Dwight McKissic Sr. I do celebrate the good that came out of King's crusade.
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Sloan Bashinsky Dave Miller Actually, in the Bible, 2 witnesses were sufficient to convict. Even Jesus said as much once, when he said he and his Father in Heaven were witnesses to something. Looks to me the conservative Christians in Alabama trampled God when they voted for Roy Moore over Luther Strange. I don't know Strange from Adam, but I've been following Moore for decades in the news, and have found him revolting. I was born and raised and practiced law in Birmingham, Alabama. I am not a Democrat. Nor a Republican. Nor any political party affiliation. I was flat against Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and flat against George W. Bush and Donald Trump. They all looked to me like agents of the Devil. I had the same Professor Clinton McGee at the University of Alabama School of Law, who later renamed Roy Moore "fruit salad". McGee taught criminal law and criminal procedure. He was a University of Alabama Law School graduate. He began his legal career defending Nazis at Nuremberg. He reportedly did such a good job getting them off, that he was switched to prosecuting Nazis and they did not get off. If he did not like Roy Moore, then he had darn good reason. Just as i have come to have good reason to wonder about anyone who holds forth about religion the way Roy Moore does, what might be the skeletons in his closet he ain't talking about? Variation of the lady protests too much. Moore had no respect to the rule of law, when he twice disobeyed federal court orders. The federal judges I knew in Birmingham would have put him in jail for contempt of court, if he had been before them.
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Scott Gordon David Worley “Whataboutism”…that time-honored argumentative equivocation when one cannot defend one’s own position. It goes, ‘rather than deal with the issue on which I am being challenged, I will silence the argument like this…”but what about the person or group you like? Aren’t they just as bad?”’ See, I am a genius! No one will be able to argue with me now!

This diversionary tactic equivocating Russ Moore and TGC and the upcoming MLK, Jr. conference as hypocritical to their, and other Christians’, speaking against the candidacies of Donald Trump and Roy Moore pointedly shows the weakness of any defense of such candidates. Whataboutism is not an argument for a position. It is an argument instead of a position. Begging the question is not answering the question.

AND, at the risk of lending credence to this argument, let me answer the question forthrightly. No, there is not a comparison between hosting a conference regarding the work of MLK, Jr. and the denunciation of President Trump and Roy Moore. There is no more a problem with hosting a conference highlighting the significant work of a flawed man regarding racial equality any more than there would be a problem hosting a conference highlighting the significant work of a flawed man regarding faithfulness to the Word of God (could be Martin Luther, James P Boyce, or Wally A Criswell). In fact, most Reformation 500 events, and I am hopeful for the coming MLK event, clearly admitted to the failings of Luther.

I don’t get to pick the significant, historical figures who have influenced our world…and even our Christian world. I can appreciate what these individuals have done…even celebrating that influence on my life, our culture, our churches, our world. I do get to pick who leads the city, state, and country in which I live. Given our vast media connectivity, I am also aware of and impacted by the political contests of other states here in the USA. In each of these cases I have the privilege of speaking out regarding my perspective, my conviction, regarding what is happening. I will continue to do so.
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David Worley Scott Gordon I'm not smart enough to do what you're saying. I'm just pointing out something else about the whole Roy Moore thing. If Russ Moore and the TGC crowd are going to blast Christians for voting for Trump and Roy Moore based on morals and values, then it's hypocritical to turn around and celebrate a man, who continuosly cheated on his wife.
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Scott Gordon David Worley, I think your record just skipped and repeated your previous comment. See if you can get the needle fixed and engage the further challenge to your whataboutism rather than leaving the record to merely repeat it.
Mike Raney If your values are abortion on demand, labelling various churches as "hate groups" for taking a Biblical stand on marriage, and continuing the UNaffordable Healthcare Act, then congratulations on your victory.
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Howard Abrams The outcome of this election in no way changes.the fact that God is sovereign. God allowed this to happen, perhaps as punishment for us in choosing such a flawed candidate. Even before these allegations I had problems with his conduct both times when he was chief justice of Alabama's Supreme Court. It was the issues that made me believe that voting for him was the best choice, but I struggled with it.
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David Worley The USA may very well be experiencing the judgment of God, with all that's going on, in our country today, with the leaders we've got. In the least, God may be taking His hand off of us.
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Sloan Bashinsky Thank you Howard Abrams for saying what has all along been in plain view.
Bob Cleveland Regardless of today's outcome and what may or may not have caused it, the plain fact is the people WILL get the government they deserve.
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David Worley And, Jesus is still sitting on the throne of Heaven.
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Sloan Bashinsky And a whole lot of Christians are going to be really surprised when they cross over to see what they did not see in this life.
David Worley In todays climate of dig up all the dirt you can, and attack the person with any dirt you can dig up....whether 20 years ago, 40 years ago, etc.....I can't imagine anyone wanting to run for office in our country. Knowing that your life is going to be torn apart, scrutinized to the Nth degree, and every single bad thing you're ever done is going to be paraded for all to see, and condemn, and blame, and nail your hide to the wall over; I just can't imagine anyone wanting to run for political office.
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Sam Greene The day is fast approaching when a Republican with a parking ticket will be enough to disqualify him from office.
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Sloan Bashinsky Well, the Republican Party revealed its soul when it accepted Donald Trump as its candidate, and the Republican Party was given a chance to somewhat redeem itself by coming out against Roy Moore, and some Republicans, such as Richard Shelby, Alabama's senior US Senator, passed that test and perhaps is the reason Moore was defeated; whereas the former US Senator, Jeff Sessions, whose vacated seat Moore sought, did not pass that test, when he declined to say whether or not he would vote for Moore. Did not Jesus in the Gospels say not to hide your lamp under a bushel?
Greg Bailey Well looks like Al Franken will resign and it will be interesting to see if there is anymore searching to see if Moore is guilty or not. This smacks of of the 2006 IL Senate race.
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Sam Greene I fully expect everything about Moore’s accusers to slink back into obscurity and nothing more done.
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David Worley I think the end game is to force Trump to resign. This seems to all be politically motivated, with the goal of getting Trump out of the White House.
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Sam Greene I think you are correct in that assessment, but the accusations against Moore won’t go anywhere now.
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Greg Bailey Moore's loss I think will ultimately help Trump. I voted 3rd party, but Trump has earned a bit of my respect. History will tell.
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Mike Raney If they were able to force Trump to resign (which I just don't see), then so be it. President Pence sounds pretty good to me.
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David Worley Mike Raney me, too. I think Pence will be an even better President.
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Sloan Bashinsky Da any of you Republicans wonder how the Deist Thomas Jefferson might say about Pence, if Jefferson were here today? Jefferson led the charge to stop the Virginia legislature from adopting Christianity as Virginia's official state religion. Jefferson was adamant that there should not be mixing of religion in politics, nor in public education.


David Worley Separation of Church and State was not to keep God out of the government, it was to keep the government out of the Church.
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Sloan Bashinsky And to keep the Church out of government. God is God. Religion pretends to know God. If God were running America, it would behave very differently. Ditto, if God were running the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.
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Sam Greene Sloan Bashinsky, if the founding fathers believed that they certainly would not have had a prayer meeting immediately following the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
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David Worley Sloan Bashinsky I am afraid you are just wrong. You have drank the antiGod, liberal kool aid. Separation of Church and State was never intended to keep God, or religious people out of the government. It was to keep the government from declaring one Church as a state church, like some European countries had at that time. So, our government cannot declare Baptist, or Methodist, or presbyterian as the state church of the USA. It was to Big Brother Government from telling churches how to worship and practice their faith.
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Sloan Bashinsky I am all in favor of God being in government, but my experience has been that God is very different from religion, which assumes it knows and speaks for God. I think prayer in government meetings is a good thing, if it is non-denominational prayer. I'm all for such prayer. Especially this prayer: Not my will but your will, O Lord, be done. Which, for me, sums up Jesus in the Gospels. I think if Roy Moore, for example, lived that prayer, then he would have conceded after the votes were tallied. He would have seen the vote tally as God telling him he was not God's choice. Ditto for Moore's followers. Ditto for all American Christians. This Facebook thread could have begun: "God did not want Roy Moore to be a US Senator."
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Sam Greene Can’t have it both ways, Sloan. You make an allusion about keeping the church out of government and then say you’re in favor of God being in government. The church is God’s physical representatives on earth.
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Sloan Bashinsky The church is not God. Repeat. The church is not God. The church is not God. If you simply ask God to bless a government proceeding, guide the participants, that is not religion. When you put your own spin on what you think God thinks or wants to happen, that is religion.
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David Worley Sloan Bashinsky We know God's will and thoughts and feelings from the Bible; God's Word.
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David Worley Now, if I try to make everyone be baptized by immersion, that's a violation of Church and State. If I try to make a law that everyone has to go to Church on Sunday morning, then that would be a violation of Church and State. And, if the government said that the Presbyterian Church was the official Church of the USA; the only Church sanctioned by the government; then THAT would be a violation of Church and State.
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David Worley But, saying that abortion is the murder of babies and should be outlawed is not a violation of Church and State.
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David Worley Wanting laws that protect religious freedom is not a a violation of Church and State.
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David Worley Not wanting homosexuality taught in the schools as okay and a true, alternative lifestyle is not violation of Church and State.
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David Worley Allowing prayer and Bible reading in school is not a violation of church and state.
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Sloan Bashinsky David Worley When a man came to Jesus to be baptised in water, Jesus said he did not do that baptism, go to John the Baptist for that and come back to Jesus and be baptised in fire. John the Baptist said of Jesus that he would baptise in fire and in spirit. Jesus' baptism is what he endured in the Gospels and what he put his disciples through in the Gospels, and what they endured later. I've been put through that baptism. It is nothing like attending church or being dunked in water. I wish that baptism on every Christian, Jew, Muslim, Republican, Democrat, and human being on this planet. Oh, my, what a thing that would be.
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David Worley Sloan Bashinsky I also pray that everyone will know the Lord Jesus Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit.
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Sloan Bashinsky That's a good prayer, David. If it is granted, a whole lot of people will be turned upside down and inside out, like what happened to Peter and to Saul of Tarsus, who was not a Christian when he met the Lord on the Road to Damascus. To the contrary, Saul was a Pharisee bent on having every Christian killed. Today, many Christians think people who do not believe as they do, will die and burn forever in hell, a far worse fate than millions of Jews being burned alive by Nazi Christians. Roy Moore is one of those Christians who believe that way. He has tens of millions of company just in America. If he had suffered through Jesus' baptism, Moore would see just about everything differently. As would Christians who believe as Moore believes. 

David Worley Sloan Bashinsky Every person, who does not become a Christian will burn in Hell, forever. That's what the Bible clearly teaches.
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Greg Bailey Sloan Bashinsky. Moore did not make up hell. Jesus spoke of it often in his ministry. Without Christ we are all destined for it.
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David Worley If someone does not repent and put their faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, then they will face the judgment of an almighty, holy God. Hell will be in their future; their eternity.
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Sloan Bashinsky St. Paul spoke of having a thorn in the flesh that he asked God to remove and God did not remove it. Where in Paul's writings does he say he had a wife and children, which, as a Pharisee, he was duty bound to do? He put women below men in relation to Christ. He told people to stop having sex, because it caused problems and Christ was returning soon and no reason to produce more children. If Christians had obeyed Paul on that, Christendom would have died out. What was Paul's thorn in the flesh? It didn't matter to God that Paul was homosexual, but it sure mattered to Paul, when he wrote that homosexuality was an abomination. Which he dealt with by being celibate. You learn all sorts of stuff in plain view during Jesus' baptism. I'm leaving this conversation, for now.
Rick Miller Given Democrats past history with elections, it's probably a wise move to ask for a re-count.
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David Rogers As Christians, I believe we are called to vote according to our conscience and leave the results to God, not to be astute in our political strategy. For many, voting for either Moore or Jones went against their conscience. If they had voted for Moore, they would have to live with that. But voting third-party is a way of saying, “It is in God’s hands. He will make a way in the wilderness as long as we are faithful and trust Him.”
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Last today, an unexpected Facebook Messenger conversation with someone who  sent me a friend request, which I accepted because she and I had a mutual Facebook friend I got to know pretty well earlier this year:


WED 11:14PM 

Judy is waiving at you. Tap to wave back. 

Sloan 
Judy, waving and poking don't do anything fo me. Words I do. 


Judy
So what words do you do?

 
Sloan 
I'm and exorcist priest disguised as a clown, are you glad you asked? I am not joking. 
I'm not joking 


Judy Averitt 
Now you’re scaring me!

 
Sloan 
Read what publish at my webiste each day, to see how I work. Here's a link to today's post. 

https://afoolsworkneverends.blogspot.com/2017/12/do-ya-think-divine-providence-had-hand.html 


Judy 
I read it. Not buying it!!

 
Sloan 
Then don't buy it. Tell our mutual friend I send my best regards.


Judy
Done and done!!

 
Sloan 
Be careful what you wave at? 😉 


Judy 
Indeed.😊 


Sloan 
I was trained by Jesus, Archangel Michael, and Melchizedek 


Judy 
Three of my favorite Teachers!! 


Sloan 
found their views of this and that, in and not in the Bible, sometimes to more often a bit different than conventional view 
they captured me 30 years ago, it's been great fun since then, a bit of sarcasm 


Judy
Interesting. 

Sloan 
oh, it has been interesting 
and terrifying, and rigorous, and aggravating, and painful, and sometimes it's fun 


Judy
Indeed. You do seem to be all of that and more. 


Sloan 
I would love to see it imposed on humanity, starting with Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Congress, every minister 


Judy
You sound a bit extreme!! 


Sloan 
Donald Trump and Roy Moore are EXTREME. So is Hillary. So is the far right and the far left. They would love having my experience, it would change the way they view EVERYTHING. Change the way they behave, too. As would it do that to anyone. 

Sloan 
Read Jesus in the Gospels, to get a sense of EXTREME in the God sense. Gosh, living as he taught people to live would cause people to think you are INSANE 


Judy 
And therein lies the rub. I am insane and proud of it. 😇 


Sloan 
How Jesus taught in the Gospels was a covert exorcism, or, if you prefer, a covert deliverance. To the extent people lived at he taught them to live, they were delivered from Evil. 
Roy Moore and his ilk could use a heap of that kind of salvation. 


Judy 
This is fun!! But it’s past my bedtime. Nighty night!! 

Sloan 
Fun. A little while ago, you wrote that I was scaring you, and then that you did not buy it, and now it's fun? Fun is not something I would ascribe to being captured by Jesus, Archangel Michael and Melchizedek, and then being turned every which a way but loose, taken upside down and backward through countless earthquakes, furnaces, artics, black holes, electrocutions, unimaginable emotions, sensations, abject depression, despair, hopelessness, terror, chastening, rebuking, hoping you will die and fear you will not.

sloanbashinsky@outlook.com

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